akshay_d

Honda Fit/Yaris got really pathetic reviews plus I want a decent performer too. I don't want to turn off the AC in the hills to gain acceleration which used to happen in the Corolla/Civic. The new Civic got increased power and there is not Q abt tC in this regard. Also the LX with similar options will go way above. (19.1K that too without power moonroof) the 18390 tC tag with side airbags.
Infact talking about haggling, the new civics are selling like hot cakes so the dealers hardly go more than 500 below the MSRP, so still the tC is cheaper. I really had a hard time to convince a dealer. Infact slash 400$ more off the 18390 tC price tag as toyota gives 400$ discount for students

1_kLEan_tC

Well, I have had both a 06 civic and now my rs. there is one clear winner as far as performance and that is a tc. The styling the of the tC is way cooler and has more parts for added performance. but as far as gas saving the civic is a clear winner. i get 280 miles in tC and the in civic 320miles. The only thing I miss about my civic is the 5th gear auto and sound systems.

krdshrk

If you've actually done any research, the auto gets better mileage.

rperez

I dont know why your only getting about 280/tank on your tc. I usually average about 315-330/tank on my tc.

1_kLEan_tC

Well i drive alot stop and go traffic

yesti

Have you looked at, say, scion.com?

2005-2006 EPA estimated
22 city/29 highway for manual
23 city/30 highway for auto <-- this is exactly what i get in the real world, how about that?

the numbers for 2007 are:

23/30 manual
23/31 auto

i'm sure the improvement is due to revised mileage estimation procedures, generation refinements/tweaks, voodoo magic, etc...

saddlesore

why not put your education to use?
buy a xb, mod it a bit if you want ...and let your extra $$$ stay in the bank making you more $$$ ????
NOW is the time to really get serious on your savings

btw...
check out the ratings from Consumer Reports on all the cars mentioned..you might be surprised

just my 1.5 cents worth

RSXaco

for thread starter
your comparing the tc to the civic si?
thats a big difference, a couple of months ago i couldn't find a an si in my area under 23,500 due to high demand markup. and the tc is what? 17,500 i'm guessing. correct me if i'm wrong but thats around a 5,000-6,000 difference.
i guess the si would be out of the question anyways because your looking at a 20,000 limit.
for under 20,000 i would say the tc would be the better choice out of the dx,lx,ex civics
let us know what you decide on

akshay_d

No. I was comparing it with the LX AT Sedan/Coupe. The SI was just a reference to comparisons available on the net. Plus to start with I wanted to look at a VFM package within 20K. Ofcourse with the same features thrown in the LX still costs 19.1K that too without powered moonroof. If I decide to take the EX because of moonroof I still jump to 20K msrp. SO I think tC will be the ultimate choice for me. Still I will test drive the Civic for once.

TrafficinLA

Honda Fits and Civics are in short supply. So getting a Honda small car right now will probably cost you MSRP, give or take a few hundred. Sounds like you want a economic sporty car. You should probably look at the Mazda3 as well although a couple thousand of them are floating around freely near Alaskan waters. This could create a supply shortage. Anyways, Civic, tC, Mazda3 are cars that you should drive.

akshay_d

Hey. Whats with this floating mazdas? Some cargo ship got rigged in the sea carrying mazdas?? =))

06CStC

"floating mazdas", good one! O, some transporter ship got stranded, and now the kittens, i mean, mazda's r stuck!

Its in another thread on here.
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MFLB

TongMan

i have always been getting over 310+ miles with my tC, city or freeway. I have an auto as well.

OCTC

Can you believe the crap this guy writes? no doubt the tc will get womped when the suspension comes stock but how is that different compared to the stock cobalt, the stock civic, and a stock jetta. Its really not fair.

Then he says and I quote.
bull
bull again. Waah wah plastics are hard and read his complaints, do we really have problems with these "issues." I have never heard "oh man my door armrests are not flush" or "my center armrest shakes" and i dont see the problem with velcro its probably holding his pants up.

wow everything ____es him off. Hope he has prozac ready when he gets to see himself in the mirror. I never had a problem with the radio cover and im pretty sure many of us wont either.

Bottom line, this is scion and scion is toyota and toyota is so far doing better in quality, value, and reliability than any other car manufacture. This is my opinion. Its an unfair test and its bull.

akshay_d

Righto. I felt the same. The reviews looked like they were anti-toyota or something.

killerxromances

Or because the tC is top heavy and does handle like crap stock or lightly modified. And people think its faster than what it is. I mean, just because a car is a few thousand dollars more expensive than the tC when comparing doesn't mean you should make the difference up by adding performance goodies.

Although, comparing the tC to any of those cars is kind of lame, the tC shouldn't be in that list period.

hunterUnknown

iTrader: (1)

That's total crap. I've owned both auto and manual. The auto I had for 40,000 miles, and the manual so far 6000, and the best i got in the auto was 25, BABYING it like I was a blind deaf grandmother. Worst was 18.

I get 25 in the manual, while driving like an ___. Best I hit was 28 in the manual. Worst has been 23.

Anyway, between auto civ and tc, I'd go with the tC for more fun no contest. Civ for better economy and more doors.

tC_kevin

tough choice...i got the tc cuz the civic wasnt out when i was in the market for a new car...but if it was out i dont know which one i would have gotton. heres some pros and cons about the civic. just to let u know- my friend has a 06 civic EX coupe in automatic and i drive it sometimes. so these are from my own experience.

pros-
1- way better gas mileage. (my friend gets about 34mpg city and hwy. i get about 22mpg)
2- seats are much more comfy
3- interior fit and finish is FAR better than my rattlebox tc
4- 5 speed auto vs. 4 speed
5- side airbags standard

cons-
1- less horsepower and torque
2- a little higher price
3- exterior styling isnt as nice as the tc
4- wheels
5- boring drive
6- no standard sunroof. (but i dont even use mine anyway..its been problematic)

ddsboi

Have you looked into getting a used car w/ some mileage on it or are you looking only fro brand new.

The tC gets boring after a while IMO. For the power it puts out, its quite heavy. Gas Mileage isn't that great on the tC. Well in SoCal everyone and their mom has one and the interior feels cheap.

Consider maybe a Used WRX or type-s? But if you are only looking for a brand new cars under 20K the tC is your best choice. Check out the mazda 3 also. I don;t like the 4 door model but i like the wagon.

akshay_d

Thanks for the info, Kevin. Still if you consider the overall value VFM then tC is better. In that price you only get a Civic LX. Sedan is a no-no as the rear end is ugly and the coupe's rear legroom is pathetic compared to tC.

I don't understand why people get bored with the tC later. There are enough exiciting features about this car that can keep you hooked on to it. Plus they have improved the interior quality for the 2007 model and hopefully most of the little problems people have faced with 2005-2006.

I am almost finalized on the tC. I have a few questions about the things that need to be taken care of and need to be addressed when you buy it from the dealer. I mean I heard tht potenzas are not good, so should I ask the dealer to swap them with PZeros. Plus what is the life of both the tyres? Any other things that need to be replaced/repaired?