Kia's Scion xB2 Ripoff
#21
I was on a road trip last week, and got some photos of my box beside a ford flex. I kinda don't mind em, and they are totally similar
Can't wait till ford comes out with the twin turbo 6 cylinder in 2010......
I would post pics, but don't know how.
Can't wait till ford comes out with the twin turbo 6 cylinder in 2010......
I would post pics, but don't know how.
#23
Originally Posted by xFistsClenchedx
Originally Posted by Redbeard46
Originally Posted by xFistsClenchedx
I don't see the problem with the Ford Flexx. At least they're trying to do their own thing. The Chevy HHR and Chrysler PT Cruiser look virtually the same. Now this Kia Soul looks virtually the same as the xB. At least the Flexx has it's own unique look and it seats what?..7 people?
#25
Originally Posted by bubbamcnasty
I was on a road trip last week, and got some photos of my box beside a ford flex. I kinda don't mind em, and they are totally similar
#26
Originally Posted by Kanchi
I like the concept behind it, but alas it is still a Ford.
Originally Posted by shortbus_8
10 YR 100,000, CANT BEAT THAT , slam it to the asphalt
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
#27
Originally Posted by xFistsClenchedx
I'm sorry but I still don't see it. The Kia is virtually the same as an xB. It looks to have the exact same dimensions when you're standing next to it as an xB does. I don't see how the Flex looks the same as an xB. It has a longer nose, much longer body, it's wider, has 3 row seating, a V6, bigger wheels and tires... To me it looks much more like a modernized old Ford Fairlane station wagon than an xB. The Flex is also inspired by the Ford Fairlane concept car so the Fairlane station wagon inspiration seems accurate.
The Kia, the dimensions may be the same, but it's just FUGLY as hell.
#34
And there is the Nissan CUBE
http://www.nissanusa.com/cube/?dcp=p...urVirtualCube/
But I gotta admit the brochure is kinda awesome!
http://www.nissanusa.com/cube/?dcp=p...urVirtualCube/
But I gotta admit the brochure is kinda awesome!
#35
The reason why car makers do this is because you have to go with what sells. Right now, Scions are not selling very good, but if you are a car designer, you start copying what has been selling and then put subtle differentials on it. Do I think it is wrong, yes, as an xb2 owner, being different is my life, with these copies hitting the road, it will be hard to tell what car is what until you are right on top of them.
It will never change, this has been happening for years and years. It is just like music, once you run out of ideas, you start recording cover tunes and remixes of older songs. I would not be surprised if Chevy and Huandei (sp) get involved before too long.
My 2 cents
It will never change, this has been happening for years and years. It is just like music, once you run out of ideas, you start recording cover tunes and remixes of older songs. I would not be surprised if Chevy and Huandei (sp) get involved before too long.
My 2 cents
#36
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I just went and saw the Soul today at a Kia dealership. It wasn't the American vesion, but the Korean deisel version. It was cool looking, but i didn't like the interior all that much. I'm interested in feeling how it drives though.
#37
If we really want to figure out who copied who, remember that the bB came out after the Nissan Cube, so it would be Ford and Kia copying Toyota copying Nissan.
For that matter, they all copied the VW Freidolin.
Competition is good, and I'm really happy that both Nissan and Kia are giving Toyota a reason to regret creating the Fatchick xB2 and denying the US market the new version of the bB.
For that matter, they all copied the VW Freidolin.
Competition is good, and I'm really happy that both Nissan and Kia are giving Toyota a reason to regret creating the Fatchick xB2 and denying the US market the new version of the bB.
#39
Originally Posted by xFistsClenchedx
Originally Posted by shortbus_8
10 YR 100,000, CANT BEAT THAT , slam it to the asphalt
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
If Toyota quality was _really_ as good as they claim, they would have no problem matching Kia's warranty. It's called "putting your money where your mouth is" and Toyota isn't doing it.
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Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by xFistsClenchedx
Originally Posted by shortbus_8
10 YR 100,000, CANT BEAT THAT , slam it to the asphalt
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
wheels custom paint , people will do the same thing
ooo nice car but its ugly as hell
If Toyota quality was _really_ as good as they claim, they would have no problem matching Kia's warranty. It's called "putting your money where your mouth is" and Toyota isn't doing it.
sounds fun and fair an unbiased. sounds like a complaint . stuff happens.
my xb is SLAMMED on the ground on RACE suspension and i have 80,000 VERY hard miles on my xB and have only had one out of warranty problem....
oh and the large warranty thing about putting your money where your mouth is . it's called not having to do so when your cars for the damnded most part are SOLID .
I work for an auto promotion company and have been told STRAIGHT up from a chrysler corporate trainer that the warranty they have implemented (lifetime powertrain) is cheaper for them (chrysler dodge jeep) than actually building better cars.