TcDepo

at 35k i'd wait til the VW R36 comes out in 2007...it is expected to b a 3.6 liter 300+hp turbocharged engine with AWD, fully loaded...sooo ya see ya later sti and evo

bOhEmIo82

LOL, the R32, and R36 are nice ___ cars but you have to be on crack to spend $35-40,000 on a Golf! That is ludicrous!!! I'd get a used M3, slip a chip and stomp your golf up and down all day!

TcDepo

o sooooooooooooooooooooooo nowwwww u'll get a used M3 a 35k o i see now but i thought evo and sti at 35k is worth it with what u get.. o ok now u changed ur mind..wow
and i dout if would b quicker then the new r36 thats comin out...its gonna have 300Plus Hp AWD with beutiful interior

So if u say o its just a golf the r36
then Sti is just an impreza
And Evo is just a Lancer so what are u tryin to say???

SilverRSXJezus

Good lord...there's so many messed up comparisons it's not even funny.


modded vs stock is a ridiculous comparison because there are endless possibilities.

used car vs new? Please...either you compare a used to a sued or a new to a new.

From the list of cars you've provided, I would say get rid of the RSX since unless you feel the need to pay the extra money for the RSX looks and leather, I suppose, then go for it. Otherwise...the Civic Si is basically the same as a RSX.

I haven't driven a WRX or a GTI, but...I dunno, the GTI does seem like a nice car. However, I'd wait and see how the cars are holding up, reliabilitywise. VW cars are not exactly anywhere close to being "reliable", but maybe it'll change.

TcDepo

its amazing how a little 1.8 motor can produce this much power check the videos of the APR STAGE 3 TURBOKIT.... IT ISN'T THE STAGE 3 PLUS KIT THATS THE 1 MY BUDDY HAS...WHICH IS A LITTLE FASTER

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/images/Dragstrip.wmv

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ima...osedcourse.wmv

http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/images/dynopull.mpg

This is the video of the APR STAGE 3 PLUS KIT...JUST SHOWS HOW APR KITS ARE SO WELL MADE

http://www.gearshift.tv/video/er002_...troduction.wmv


Couple of cars gets spanked in this movie.
Corvette
WRX
and a few.... http://videos.imolas4.com/tuned2002/tuned2002_v2.wmv

Vroooom

yaa the 1.8t motor was very tunable I could only imagine how the 2.0T will be like

i also read on a forum that APR will be introducin a turbokit that should push the 2.0T to 380-400hp safely it thats true that is pretty ridiculous..

jjjosh41

I actaully bought a GTI about a month ago and its a beautiful car. But I couldnt afford it. If you can afford the payments then its an amazing car. It is probably the most fun car I have ever drove. I dont think anyone would turn it down. It was TopGear car of the year for a reason.

TcDepo

u bought it and now your gettin rid of it?? which package did u get since u cant afford it.. i jsut bought my gti Package 0 comes with everything except sunroof and leather for $21,600

jjjosh41

I had the papers all signed, was accepted for financing, put my payment down, the day before I was supposed to pick it up some finanical problems came up. It was a huge bummer but there wasnt much I could do about it. Im still going to school full time and working part time so I figured with my financial situation going for a less expensive car was a good choice anyway. I was going to get a white package 1 with mats. And I could be wrong but I think the package zero is basically nothing added on. No sat. radio, no leather, no sunroof, no climate control, no heated seats/power seats, etc.

TcDepo

pk 0 comes with no leather seats, no sunroof, no climate control, and no SAT radio i really dont need all that, the rest is all standard...it still comes really nicely equiped the pk 0 with those plaid seats

jjjosh41

Yeah i actually prefer the Interlagos Plaid interior. The leather seemed a little cheap...and in a lot of places in the leather seats they used a synthetic leatherette. And with the Interlagos you dont have to worry about scratching or scuffing.

Skunk

Yeah, it'll be a very nice kit. Although, 350-400hp in a FWD car is not even close to daily drivable. That's just beastly.

Evos don't break down all that much. The do have transfer case issues but that's about the extent of it. Pretty much no four cyl engine comes close to that thing potential though. That's why they come with anywhere from 320-400hp stock depending where you live.

I'll give you that the Evo has a pretty crappy interior. Subaru's interiors are quite nice, and for the money, I'd take an STI over an S4 any day.

Skunk

If you're talking to me, you'll notice I didn't post that.

For a new car, yeah, an STI is worth it.

If *I* had a used car budget of $35K, I could build a car that pretty much nothing can touch in almost any motorsport you care to name. Like a first gen Miata with rebuilt motor, turboed/supercharged to around 350-400hp, gutted, full suspension/wheels/tires, roll cage, tranny, and about 10 grand in aero/weight reduction. Car that weighs *way* under 2000lb, can pull *way* over a G on a skidpad, and probably runs 10s in the quarter and tops out over 180. That could destroy Porsches, forget M3s.

That's why comparing new to used is retarded.

Alternatively, a retardedly well-built RX-7, 300ZX, MR2, or even 240sx could be built with that kind of money. And any one of them would hit the above performance levels mentioned above (well Zs aren't really quarter mile cars, but top end would be absurd).

TcDepo

u woulld take an sti over an S4 with year s4 u talkin about cause a 2000 S4 with the 2 K04's and a chip will ____ on a sti and the new s4 stock forget about it doesnt even compare they are insanely fast have u drove 1???

Have u ever drove a 2000-2001 s4 with a chip???
Have you ever drove a NEW one???
its fast as hell and still more luxorious and smoother then an sti dreams of being

bOhEmIo82

Yeah, and an Ali Afshar special edition STI would ____ all over any VW, or Audi you brought to it's plate! Raed about it and educate yourself. 9 second quarter miles @ 144 mph, and about 525 whp!!!

TcDepo

hahahhahaha r u on crack bOhEmIo82
i think u read turbo magazine way to much have u ever seen the daulback gti its got 900hp buddy it'll $hit all over any car u know the daulback gti is 1 of the fastest car in the world..And have ever seen Eip tunin or the Hpa tuning R32 it makes 600whp
why dont u watch this videos and shut the **** up... http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/video/R...00_HP_0001.wmv
http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/video/R...WD_DYNO_02.mpg

TcDepo

These are the fastest cars based on acceleration (in seconds) from 0 to 60 MPH.

2.6 - 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans <----------made by porshe
2.7 - 2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept
2.7 - 2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
2.7 - 1999 Leblanc Caroline
2.7 - 1993 Dauer 962 Le Mans <---made by porshe
2.8 - 1996 Renault Espace F1 <---french made
2.9 - 1991 Audi Avus Quattro <---Vw
2.9 - 1997 Callaway C7 Corvette
2.9 - 1997 Dodge Viper GTS-R
3.0 - 2003 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron <---VW Made FASTEST TOP SPEED CAR
3.1 - 2006 Mosler
3.1 - 1995 Ford GT-90
3.1 - 1993 Jaguar XJR-15

where are the jap cars dont see em on the list all european or american soo dream on
3.1 - 1998 Koenigsegg CC
3.1 - 1991 Lotec C1000
3.1 - 1991 McLaren F1

Chikubi

Sounds like you don't read much of anything.

http://homepages.apci.net/~sirmyt/bo...SecretGT-R.mpg Top Secret R33 GT-R, 1200hp, 0-200 23.99 secs, on public hwy
http://homepages.apci.net/~sirmyt/bo...3.movie02.mpegJUN Auto Impreza, 600 hp, 190 mph on public road, in 1999
http://homepages.apci.net/~sirmyt/bo...3.movie01.mpegTop Secret Supra, 198 mph on British A1

Want more? I got a clip of a R32 GT-R doing 0-190 in just over 13 secs -- or how about the Top Secret R35 GT-R, 209 mph on the Autobahn? How about the AMS Evo's? They've hit well over 800 whp, and 600whp cars are their average tune. Don't even get me started on anything put out by MINES, AMUSE, Yashio Factory, RE AMEMIYA, etc. GTI is a nice car, but they're not doing anything anybody else hasn't already been doing for quite a looooong time now. If you're going to tell someone to bugger off, you better pack a bit more ammo and a lot less attitude.

Skunk

Yeah, I drove a 2001. It was alright, certainly pretty quick.

And I raced a 2005 S4 in my WRX and pulled a fender up to sixty miles an hour, then let off. I have no illusions that he wouldn't have blown me out of the water past third gear though. Still, the look on his face was priceless. He used to have a highly modded GSX, which he sold for the Audi, and last I heard he sold that and is now building a SR20 240sx.

And I'm saying *for the money* I would take a new STI over a new S4. Just because I would be almost as fast and save $20,000. I'd take a spec B over an STI though.

TcDepo

Mclaren F1 smoked a twin turboed modded skyline and modded supra buddy so u can shut the **** also Chikubi
.... watch this video buddy.. http://www.mattpotter.net/Video/Smal...rag%20Race.mpg


And the bugatti veyron is VW made Bugatti claims a launch from 0-188 mph can be achieved in a mere fourteen seconds and that the Veyron can reach a top speed of 250 mph. Wow! http://www.autoweb.com/content/resea...ent&vscat=NULL

And all the cars u mentioned how miles can they give until they blow up runnin all that boast in them???

Face it Japanease cars aren't the fastest cars in the world you have to understand that..when it comes to speed european cars dont **** around..they will always come out with something even more sick...