rhythmnsmoke

Z driver must have sucked....lol. I assume you are talking about the 03-05 Z. Should be a good race though.

elohel

I can understand that.. it's bs when someone won't come down on a price at all. What I did to get my SI quite cheaply (They had about 6 SI sedans on the lot) and I got the one color (white) that was in big demand for a cheap price. I strung them along about wanting to buy the car. Last few days of the month I made up this bs quote I got from another dealer and told them to match it or I was going with the other place. Long story short, got the SI for $19,600 along with $3,300 on my trade-in that they recently apraised at $2000 even.

elohel

He had an 04 Camry, though, not an 07. And I think an SI vs an 07+ camry would be a decent race

I_HAVE_K20z3

LISTEN !!! LISTEN !!! LISTEN !!! LISTEN !!!

all TC's with 160 hp stock cant beat 197 hp

WILL NOT BEAT AN stock Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

scionkidd

yea it was a 03 or sum.... the one with regular taillights. (you know how the new ones have led tails)
the driver was pretty good (even though he was setting the chrono on his driver detail guage)

scionkidd

even an 04 camry SE V6 walks on an SI... i know cuz i own it!!! and honestly bro dont even talk about the 08 SE V6... i'll take an SI any day, any time. trust me... i have driven both

scionkidd

ok i dont want a tC- Si war or sum... but the tC has 25tq more... its pretty embarrassing that it has 197 hp and a very low 137 tq.

today i raced my fifth Si... i have only lost one race with an Si- he had an 1/2 car length. all the other time Ive walked on a civic and once i raped one... must be the driver.

SO IN CONFLICT WITH YOUR QUOTE... A tC DOES BEAT AN Si... AT LEAST MINE DOES.

gjpjr84

scionkidd

^^ HAHA LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^

elohel

You know, everyone is so quick to laugh at the SI's low torque, yet somehow everyone manages to look over the fact about how an SI can take a Cobalt SS/ion redline with has nearly 30 more WHP and a ton more torque.. and yes, even with your whopping 25 more tq, the SI will still murder a tc. Guess torque isn't that important eh?

scionkidd

bro u keep on arguing but Here's the truth... the Si DOES NOT MURDER A tC. yea I admit it may be a bumpers's length ahead sometimes. but u and ur honda buddies are talking like the Si is quickest thing on the road.
here's another kicker: An S/C tC will run laps around the Si.

im sorry im being that guy...but almost all of the boasting the Si is getting in this thread is just BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cessblood

I missed this post.

rhythmnsmoke

Not in the 1/4 mile unless the driver is pretty crappy. But from 0-75mph (roughly the 1/8th mile), the tC has a chance if the driver is good. That's for the 06 and below SI. Not sure about the 07, I've never raced one.

cessblood

[quote=scionkidd]

When I had the stock supercharger(but I got some else under the hood now lol). I killed my boy's 07 SI when we was coming back from Nopi and beat some other dude's SI months ago. lol I think the SI are cool cars but they are not monster cars, Please don't hype up the SI more then what it is.

scionkidd

[quote=cessblood]Thank you!!!

Asif22

No way "high compensation pistons"? What are " high compensation pistons"?

CarbonXe

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[quote="Asif22"

No way "high compensation pistons"? What are " high compensation pistons"?[/quote]

Lol, I wanted to say something, but I didn't want to make the kid feel like a tool, atleast he knew Hondas + boost = bad.

elohel

Sorry man, it's a lot more than a 'bumper's length'. Anytime I see a TC on the highway and we gun it, the SI pulls on it hard from 50-80, which is where I let off.

A S/C TC does not run laps around an SI lol.. at best they're more or less even, which is pathetic for a F/I car in general. A S/C TC puts out less power than a S/C coballt SS and I can take those (I ran a 14.7 stock vs two cobalt SS"s runing a 14.9 stock and a 15.0 stock). A Cobalt SS puts out about 220 WHP, which is at least more than 20 WHP more than your TC would, but they have no means of getting the power to the ground. That's where the SI's weak torque comes into play. I can gun it and the tires won't break loose, but it'll pull well.

By no means do I think the SI is god's gift, but it's getting annoying seeing all these weak and moderately slow cars thinking they can hang with a moderately quick SI. It just doesn't happen.

Asif22

[quote=CarbonXe]lol yea its true, I have an si and they do have high comp. pistons, which isn't good for boost. If I were to go boost I would definetly change that out.

CarbonXe

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I hope you understand that the Cobalt is running 11psi from the factory with that charger, the tC is running 7.5? 8.5? (not sure on the actual number, but I know it's below 10). Plus the tC with the supercharger shouldn't be compared number wise to the Cobalt SS. The Cobalt SS isn't just a Cobalt with a S/C bolted on, it has a modified exhaust system and is tuned directly from the factory. The tC is putting out only 20 less HP, on about 2-3 less lbs of boost, plus with a ____ty re-flash. A tC with an 11lb pulley and exhaust system will put about 230 to the wheels, 25-30 more than the Cobalt puts to the wheels.

And I guarantee people on Srt-4, 350Z, Evo..etc forums are saying the same thing about people with Si's trying to mess with them, ain't going to happen, just like that bone stock Si running a 14.2 or w/e, biggest amount of bull____ I've ever seen on the internet.

Also, don't talk about factory F/I cars having low numbers, they're F/I for 1 reason, a slight increase in power while still maintaining reliability. You're so proud of your Honda with its 197hp, little do you know, Honda tunes their vehicles more than any other manufacturer, and they tune for only HP. That's why you've got 11:1 compression pistons and perfectly tuned cams. They literally squeeze as much HP out of those engines while still meeting emissions standards and keeping it reliable.