cfusionpm

i ran into a cocky kid in an 04-05 VW Golf GTI VR6 on the way to school today. he was speeding and weaving and acting hot ____ for about a mile. as luck would have it, i caught him lined up at a stop light to a freeway onramp. if you know of the area, its the south entrance to the 15 from clairmont mesa blvd. the light is a left turn; two staggered lanes. the outside lane is about a car-length ahead of the inside lane. i was on the inside, he on the outside. light turns green, i quickly ease it into first, and dont gun it untill i see we're about even (after the turn ended, and its now straight). we're totally even in 1st gear. as soon as i (very quickly) shift to second, and immediately put about half a car-length on him. redlining 2nd, im starting to pull more. into 3rd, im now a full car length ahead and still pulling. by this time, it seems he let off, and very quickly falls even more back. i didnt even hit 80 mph (i think), so it was pretty short.

i didnt know how much power those model GTIs had in either the 1.8T or VR6. i know i raced a VR6 (or at least one with a VR6 badge). and it had at least an aftermaeket exhaust. i looked up the stats for it and with a 2.8L 6 cylinder, the VR6 puts out 200 hp! so i was pretty impressed with my pokey little 160 horses (maybe 5-10 more with my intake/exhaust). iduno though, it seems like a double edged sword. i mean, yeah i beat a car with 200 hp, but its also a pretty heavy fat pig. i wouldnt pick on say, an rsx-s, who has not only a power advantage, but also weight advantage. anyway, fun times. i usually dont like racing and it was pretty much the first time. its kinda fun, since i almost never redline my car in daily driving. i know the car isnt terribly quick, but its comforting to know i can beat someone with more power.

Poison

Hey do you go to college in San Diego? I'm going to start school there during the January Semester.

cfusionpm

this is my last semester at the JC, mesa college. im transferring to UCSD in the fall.

rs1028tc

I got whopped by a 06 GTI the other day, goddamn thoes things are fast i wish my tC could handle it

OpTiMi5t

iTrader: (-1)

they push 200 hp and thats stock.

DouBLeJ16

One of my really good friends has a '03 GTi VR6 6-speed, with a CAI & good tires. We've raced several times.. It normally runs a 15.3-15.4 in the quarter

The car is pretty damn fast at 60+.. but before that (especially in 1st & 2nd gear) the car really isn't very fast. I'll beat him by 1-2 car lengths from 0-60 in my tC (I/H).. but if we go from a roll starting around 60 he will put 1-2 car lengths on me.

The VR6's have a really bad drive-by-wire system. when he trys to shift the car hard into second gear it hestitates and cuts out the gas for a split second, enough to really slow it down on the 1-2 shift. The GIAC chip takes care of this problem and I think he would beat me if he had that done.

Also, for being so small, it's a rather heavy car, it weighs 100lbs. more then the tC.

summerofsam44

My friend is buying one...Those things are pretty damn fast

Batjew

fusion, you should know a tc is not really 160hp. average 140 at the wheel.

Batjew

fusion, you should know a tc is not really 160hp. average 140 at the wheel.

HKSpeed

A VR6 will eat up a RSX Type S . I used to own a GTI VR6, so I guess I'm biased. lol.
(not my video).
Thank god for 3rd gear lol.

THansenite

I was actually looking at getting a GLI 6-speed with the VR6 engine before I found my tC. The Jetta may have more power, but I have not, for one second, regretted my choice. I love the tC.

senseiturtle

I had a VR6 too. The 24v, 200hp version should destroy you, especially up top... unless the kid can't drive.

reppindaTC

when you race like that its all about the driving skills

DouBLeJ16

With a 0-60 time of 7.5 and a quarter mile of a mid 15, the VR6 will no way "destroy" a tC. the tC actually will win until around 60-70 MPH.. then it's about a 1-2 car difference.. definately not "destroying"

I've raced my friend at least 30 times, some of the street, some of the track.. either way he never can pass me until around 80-90mph.

DouBLeJ16

stock vs. stock with equal drivers the RSX type-S will win against a VR6.

goingcarcrazy

I can see an R32 destroying a tC but not a standard VR6. I was in the market for one of those, the powers not that great, and if I remember right (my memory sucks) those little things are porkers...kinda like skylines!

Aurion

Just wanna toss in my 2 cents, I came from the VW world into the Scion world. I owned several VW's including 3 corrados, and the last corrado i owned i put a vr6 in it. The new GTI Vr6's are quick, but they're limited to they're true potential (in stock form) by the gear box. The ratios are way to long in the stock transmission and it makes the car really slow until around 4500 in 2nd gear. My Corrado had the Corrado SLC (vr6) short ratio gear box, and holy crap, it would rip your head back into the seat.

cfusionpm

yeah. i was just comparing flywheel hp, cuz i dont know what the vw puts to the wheels.

and yeah, it could very well be he was just some punk kid who doesnt know how to drive; i pulled on him half a car length each shift. shifting isnt rocket sciense though... there was no launch involved; it was just a 10mph 1st gear punch, how can you screw that up?

DouBLeJ16

Yeah, the R32 would destroy a tC.. they run high 13s bone stock. but that's not even close to a VR6, the R32 has a larger engine with more power & AWD.

DouBLeJ16

And you should know the difference between WHP and BHP..

The VR6 is rated at 200hp and only puts down 170-175whp.
The tC is rated at 160hp and only puts down 140-145whp.