george_da_2nd

ya the 07 is faster i went up aginst my friend with an 06 tC with a figita CAI and i was stock and i beat him but about half of my car. were both farily comperable drivers

guitarguru44

dont foget VTEC baby...

nahh Im kidding, VTEC is overrated as hell..

iRobin

VTEC is over rated... but the prelude is pretty nice.
Thats what I drove before I got my tC.
It didnt have the VTEC but it had the 2.3L.
I kinda wish they still made them..

draxcaliber

the prelude is a decent car, handles well, sport engine and whatnot. they are pretty rare though. i don't see alot of them here in md. they are pretty comparable to the scion tc and toyota celica. they had some pretty sohisticated equipment for a car in its class like four wheel steering.

the third generation prelude could out slalom porsches, lambos and ferraris. some came with lsd from the factory and then there were super handling models (sh)

they have alot of things that tc owners would kill for, 200 hp from an na engine, bigger gas tank, better handling, lsd, better mpg. they also had some very nice interiors. so yeah, the guys who have nice ones are probably very proud or cocky.

CuRiOuSfIsH

thats when VTEC is not over rated, when more HP and better MPG comes in a package that is better than their competitors. Of course............. there are some that dont always see it that way.... the "VTEC just kicked in YO!" crowd.
I dont see a lot of Ludes now adays either, and a lot of the owners are......... not so nice. ANd no offense to anyone, I usually see them driven by young white guys that have their hats flipped on backwards. Most of the properly modded Ludes are gone....

Supercharge_returns

My brother as a 5 spd prelude, we always race from a dig i always get him from a dig, but on the highway that vtec kicks in good lol...tC>prelude....Eazzzyyy...

Wyatt_Herb

In my apartment complex there is a younger asian guy with a very clean '00/'01 Prelude "Type SH". Its in perfect shape, looks completely stock and I'm sure it is. On one lucky occasion we left the complex at the same time, me in front of him, turning left onto a 4 lane road. I waited casually for him to make a move, never did. Eventually we come up upon a busier intersection and he jogs in front of me. I was curious to engage so I made a blatant signal as to turn to the right into the arterial and he, while in front of me notices, takes the bait. He aggresively takes the arterial to the right and guns it onto another 4 lane road, this one completely empty with about 300 yards of road till a red light. So I'm watching him in front of me so I get on it. I notice I am fetching him hard. As fate would have it there still was the red light, just waiting to frame us up and I'm thinkin', "Oooh, this is gonna be ugly..." He revs his engine, light turns green, his tires squeal, I intentionally wait a split second then I launch hard, hit second gear, really blow by em, I mean bad, hit third, ride it out, thats all I need as he is already distant. Years later, he would do a ricer fly by with his hand out the window, bouncing through the center lane.

TRD Supercharger
NST 9.5
Forge 007

Not a win to brag about but it was still a lot of fun. Thats my experience with a Prelude.
More intersting---> http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl.../solo0133.html

Supercharge_returns

Hahahah. Nice kill story!! I like it. I thought you was stock at first and then I read down and was like damm your tC got sum big *****..

Wyatt_Herb

Until reading that article I had no idea the Prelude was that heavy. I thought it would be a better performer but its 1/4 mile and 0-60 times are similar to that of a stock tC.

Syko_tC

agree! my friend drives a 2000 prelude. when he first got it, he thought he was hard, "yea v-tec boy!" me and him are in the same crew, the other members said i should go head to head with him. could never get a nice sunny day in seattle, finally the day came, we drove down to airport way, a straight local road in seattle with a sherrif station. but we still didn't care, rolling on 40s down shifted to 2nd while he said he was on first -_-. i pulled right off on his ___, the best one i got off him was almost a car length, and my was pure stock...... i have to say this, 2nd and 3rd gear pull the hardest on a tc.

draxcaliber

well, the prelude has the power and isn't too heavy, maybe it is the gearing? or your friend can't drive?

Syko_tC

might be the 2nd one, this was the 2nd month after he got his car, and he has never driven a stick shift before. but when i ride in his car, i have to say, vtec pulls really hard.....

Wyatt_Herb

Its more likely the car is incredibley slow until later RPM ranges and then the power comes on so that it seems like "something" is pulling hard. Based on the average review of a stock tC and a Prelude, the tC ways less and is slightly faster.

Syko_tC

wow you are from seattle too, have you been to any of the M&Gs?

TCpete

lol.. so much BS in this thread its hilarious lol..07 motors are not diferent then 06.. only thing that changed are the redlines lol.. wow 200 more rpms lol.. sorry..both motors have 9.6.1 and the 07 is rated 1 more hp/tq.. thats basically a drivers race... 1 hp is not going to give you car lengths... stock for stock..ITS A DRIVERS RACE.. goddam!...

and if your an auto tc yes you will most likely in fact you should be loosing to a prelude.. even if its the h22 non vtec or h23.. their TQ and number + lighter chasis and lower gearing will place them ahead of you by 2nd gear if not first if they know how to launch... and if its an h22 or 23 vtec... by 5k rpms he will start pulling..only way a tc should win if its a regular non vtec or the prelude driver is a horrible driver. you will have in certain instances a tc tie or pull ahead but thats rare...

Wyatt_Herb

I was under the impression that in order for Scion to claim the same SAE ratings they had to tweak the motor some. In other words a 2005 tC would rate lower than the claimed 163 if tested under current SAE regulations or whatever whereas a 2007 would rate higher than the claimed #'s if tested under old regs.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130719

2001 Prelude Type SH*
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $ 26,100
Price As Tested $ 26,540
Engine Type DOHC 16-valve 2.2 Liter I4 w/SMFI*
Engine Size 132 cid/2157 cc
Horsepower 200 @ 7000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 156 @ 5250 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 101.8"/69.0"/178.0"
Transmission Five-speed manual
Curb Weight 3217 pounds

PERFORMANCE
EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 22/27/24
0-60 MPH 7.5 seconds
1/4 (E.T.) 16.0 seconds @ 92.5 mph
Top-speed 135 mph

2005 Scion tC**
ACCELERATION, Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.5
50-70 mph: 9.0
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.7 sec @ 88 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 127 mph

BRAKING
70-0 mph @ impending lockup: 179 ft

HANDLING
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g
Understeer: minimal moderate excessive

FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving: 22 mpg
EPA highway driving: 30 mpg
C/D-observed: 24 mpg

Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 3-door coupe
Price as tested: $17,719

ENGINE
Type: inline-4, aluminum block and head
Bore x stroke: 3.48 x 3.78 in, 88.5 x 96.0mm
Displacement: 144 cu in, 2362cc
Compression ratio: 9.6:1
Fuel-delivery system: port injection
Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake-valve timing
Power (SAE net): 160 bhp @ 5700 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 163 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6200 rpm

DRIVETRAIN Transmission: 5-speed manual
Final-drive ratio: 4.24:1
Gear, Ratio, Mph/1000 rpm, Max test speed
I, 3.54, 4.7, 29 mph (6200 rpm)
II, 2.05, 8.2, 51 mph (6200 rpm)
III, 1.33, 12.6, 78 mph (6200 rpm)
IV, 0.97, 17.2, 107 mph (6200 rpm)
V, 0.78, 21.6, 127 mph (5900 rpm)

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 106.3 in
Track, front/rear: 59.3/59.3 in
Length/width/height: 174.0/69.1/55.7 in
Ground clearance: 5.2 in
Drag area, Cd (0.32) x frontal area (24.2 sq ft, est): 7.70 sq ft
Curb weight: 3016 lb
Weight distribution, F/R: 58.5/41.5%
Curb weight per horsepower: 18.9 lb
Fuel capacity: 14.5 gal

*taken from www.theautochannel.com
**taken from www.caranddriver.com

Syko_tC

prelude sucks, tC FTW

MisterKe

Every car has a group of people that will set a bad name for it. Who on here are cool with SRT4 Owners, how about them stangs? The same way we feel about them, they feel about us. My love is a prelude owner/driver. She's an awesome person. Really loves her lude just as mich as I love my tC.

We're talking about a 7+ year diffrence maybe even more in technology. If honda continued the prelude line, would we be able to say they suck? i wont. I love that car. Awesome high end power, looks to kill, and fun to drive on the twisty roads. I know my tC can't handle half as well as her lude can. And some of the models had technology way ahead of the times. Digital guages among other things. So for 80s-90s car it can still hold it's own.

My tC is manual, stock under the hood, her's sport shift and stock as well. But I can roast many other cars on the roads in her prelude that my tC can't. and it goes both ways.

On topic. Prepare to have your butt handed to you. Them preludes are killers, and I'm not so sure but they have better street cred than our tC's. For now...

Syko_tC

talking about handling, i got the tein super street coilovers, it should handle the prelude without a problem. and as for the race, its all up to the mods and the drivers.....

taktics

everyone pretty much hit the ball on that one slam a supercharger imo under your hood then see what you got or better yet YEA RACE him go to a secluded area minimal to no traffic and do the dam thing then... throw the s/c in and do it againyou have a auto so yea ur gonna loose but watever

full tank of gas: 39 dollars

supercharger: 3000 dollars

2 friends sing what there cars can do: priceless