What really happend to ZPI - **Update on Pg1**
08-06-2007 | 07:12 AM
#203
WOW this really sucks because I just orderd my pully on July 30th and now all this s*** hits the fan. Well I guess I'll be makeing a phone call first thing in the morning. I know i'm only out $160 but all the others that are out 4 and 5 G's OUCH.
08-06-2007 | 03:22 PM
#204
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Originally Posted by TuningIsLife
ScionLife vs. Kenny of ZPI
VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
CROWD: Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE: Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH: And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2: Yeah!
CROWD: We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1: No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3: No. No.
VILLAGER #2: No.
VILLAGER #1: No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3: No.
VILLAGER #1: Yes.
VILLAGER #2: Yes.
VILLAGER #1: Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2: A bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
RANDOM: [cough]
BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1: Burn!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
CROWD: Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE: Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH: And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2: Yeah!
CROWD: We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1: No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3: No. No.
VILLAGER #2: No.
VILLAGER #1: No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3: No.
VILLAGER #1: Yes.
VILLAGER #2: Yes.
VILLAGER #1: Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2: A bit.
VILLAGER #3: A bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
RANDOM: [cough]
BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1: Burn!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
Now you can't leave out the African Swallow part! I don't know it word for word, Post it up....
08-06-2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ih8civx
One of the guys I show with has had his car down there for months now. Former cover of Super Street. I had talked to Strickler back in May and he made it seem like the company was doing very well... It'll be interesting to see if my boy Steve gets his car back...or whatever becomes of ZPI.
This car was not in ZPI's shop when I went up there about 3 weeks ago. Kenny had forseen this debacle, and has taken care of getting this STI away from the Shop. It is still being worked one, so the guy that owns it shouldn't have to worry, as this car is not tied up in the shop in the middle of this.
08-06-2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by jdg1605
does anyone know the REAL story. if rythmsmoke kept getting PM from ZPI about people saying stuff on here, where the hell is ZPI to tell us THE REAL STORY.
WHERE IS EVERYONES MONEY
WHERE IS EVERYONES MONEY
Kenny stop posting on here WAAAAYYYY before this debacle. So, credibility this or credibility that is beyond the reason. Secondly, the PM's I got were from Danny (hope they don't delete this message, seeing as how they did my pm's from him), making threats (rather weak ones I might add), along the lines of, I was borderline defamation and slandering him because I posted up what 5 other people did from that e-mail Kenny sent out. Which was the contact information for Danny.
Yeah, I'm definitely slandering him by posting up public information...
What do you think this hole thread has been up to this point? Wouldn't you say it has been a rather Slander/Character attack with Kenny as the target so far? At who's hands would you say this has come about? Brad, Danny? With Brad posting, and Danny feeding verbal information to people who have called him, has set a motion of defamation of character, and slander wouldn't you think. With all of SL as witness. So, if this got even uglier than it has, Kenny has a LOT of ammunition for a defamation of character lawsuit. Not saying that he is going to do something like that, I'm just looking at the obvious here, and the tactics being played.
At the PM's trying to say I'm slandering someone when I've yet to say anything bad about any of them.On another Common Sense note (seeing as how most are quick to judge without using it). Brad came on and stated on more that ONE instance that Danny owned 100% of ZPI assets correct. So, just out of curiosity, if you own 100% of the assets (i.e. basically everything in the building, i.e. owning the company), if someone were to say get sue happy, who do you think they would go after? The guy selling the parts, or the company itself?
Example, I go to Mcdonalds and buy a Big Mac, and find out that it has a huge coach roach in it. I'm ____ed now, should I sue the guy standing behind the counter taking my money, or should I sue McDonalds instead?
PS....now it's going to take me 9 hrs to drive to get my car worked on instead of the 3 it use too...
Bout as long as it takes for me to get to FL.
08-06-2007 | 04:23 PM
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Now you know how i feel about the drive. haha
Excpet for the fact that it takes:
16 HOurs to get from my house to ZPI
16 HOurs to get from my house to Kenny in texas.
How am i winning here?
Dont complain about driving
Excpet for the fact that it takes:
16 HOurs to get from my house to ZPI
16 HOurs to get from my house to Kenny in texas.
How am i winning here?
Dont complain about driving
08-06-2007 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Now you can't leave out the African Swallow part! I don't know it word for word, Post it up....
ARTHUR: Whoa there! [clop clop]
GUARD #1: Halt! Who goes there?
ARTHUR: It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeator of the Saxons, sovereign of all England!
GUARD #1: Pull the other one!
ARTHUR: I am. And this my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court of Camelot. I must speak with your lord and master.
GUARD #1: What, ridden on a horse?
ARTHUR: Yes!
GUARD #1: You're using coconuts!
ARTHUR: What?
GUARD #1: You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together.
ARTHUR: So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through--
GUARD #1: Where'd you get the coconut?
ARTHUR: We found them.
GUARD #1: Found them? In Mercea? The coconut's tropical!
ARTHUR: What do you mean?
GUARD #1: Well, this is a temperate zone.
ARTHUR: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter yet these are not strangers to our land.
GUARD #1: Are you suggesting coconuts are migratory?
ARTHUR: Not at all, they could be carried.
GUARD #1: What -- a swallow carrying a coconut?
ARTHUR: It could grip it by the husk!
GUARD #1: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut.
ARTHUR: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here.
GUARD #1: Listen, in order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings 43 times every second, right?
ARTHUR: Please!
GUARD #1: Am I right?
ARTHUR: I'm not interested!
GUARD #2: It could be carried by an African swallow!
GUARD #1: Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow, that's my point.
GUARD #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that...
ARTHUR: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
GUARD #1: But then of course African swallows are not migratory.
GUARD #2: Oh, yeah...
GUARD #1: So they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway... [clop clop]
GUARD #2: Wait a minute -- supposing two swallows carried it together?
GUARD #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line.
GUARD #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a standard creeper!
GUARD #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
GUARD #2: Well, why not?
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08-06-2007 | 09:49 PM
#212
What I can do is start a list of people who have outstanding claims with ZPI - If you guys want to PM me i will post them on the first post. I have all of my reply emails from kenny so I will add my claim to the list. This will be an unofficial tally but I would like to see upfront on how many SL'ers are out $$ and how much they are out. Let me have feedback on this and see if people want to give out their losses pubically.
08-07-2007 | 05:04 AM
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After reading all of this, and the other, now locked thread, I will refrain from writing an I told you so speech. I am just wondering at what point will the Kenny faithful cut their losses (if they ever will) and admit to the sub par (to be modest) business practices ZPI has demonstrated over the 4 years or so. Now, its even more difficult to dispute where their interests lie. Who's ever fault it is, it's rather simple to conclude that they are looking for their own best interests at the expense of their customers. Between the long shipping, bunch of lies (did you hear about the welder breaking a finger lmao), crappy work (except you rhythm, yes, we know), and a bunch of other horse poop in between, this can hardly come as a surprise to those who have not been oblivious to reality and the experiences of sadly too many innocent and hopefully uninformed customers. Even if, Kenny wanted to embark on new ventures, he is not the first linchpin to leave a company. Most companies however, don't get thrown into such turmoil. There is no excuse for what ZPI did/doing to their, unfortunately (ex)devoted customers. And for those still sticking up for Kenny is just sickening. Thats like saying "Charles Manson didn't do anything wrong to me, he was always nice and took care of me when I went to visit him, he is a pretty cool dude".
To those that say ZPI has been great except recently, must have amnesia. I am surprised they lasted this long. I was amazed at their popularity even 4 months ago, they had probably most negative experiences except for maybe tctunerz and scionspeed. Yet, because of the 3-4 regulars being so vocal and outspoken marketing representatives for ZPI, the not so fortunate folks who did not put enough research into their investments ended biting the bullet. I feel pain for all those missing parts and cars with no light at the end of the tunnel.
As much bashing and flaming I will endure for this post, I feel that some may not have read it from the locked thread and need to. I have no idea how credible this is, however, I do not see any motivation for this person to lie to such extent. Here it is:
To those that say ZPI has been great except recently, must have amnesia. I am surprised they lasted this long. I was amazed at their popularity even 4 months ago, they had probably most negative experiences except for maybe tctunerz and scionspeed. Yet, because of the 3-4 regulars being so vocal and outspoken marketing representatives for ZPI, the not so fortunate folks who did not put enough research into their investments ended biting the bullet. I feel pain for all those missing parts and cars with no light at the end of the tunnel.
As much bashing and flaming I will endure for this post, I feel that some may not have read it from the locked thread and need to. I have no idea how credible this is, however, I do not see any motivation for this person to lie to such extent. Here it is:
First off, i know that there are going to be people that are going to come on here and defend Kenny and ZPI to the death, all i have to say to that is you have nothing to dispute with me. This is all first hand information that i have witness or other employees have witnessed.
I designed the very first kit on these cars back in i guess 2005 or what ever. At that point Kenny decided to start selling these kits. Not a bad thing, but he sold alot of them and told many lies about this thing. He had already sold 15-20 kits before i was even done with the first kit. This how things work with everything around ZPI. The engine limiter was never tested. We made one on a car from Tenn. and then Kenny started selling them that night. Never Tested. So they have now idea the bad effects that may or may not come from this.
They advertise parts that they can not deliver without a long wait on the customers end. Such as a 3 inch exhaust. First one of those they ever made was on the car from Tenn. again. That was also the last while i was there. Also the balance shaft delete kit doesent exist.
The ported heads that they sell are junk. they have a bottom feeding shop here in town run some sanding rolls around in the head to make it look special and sell it.
They will install used parts on a customers car that is brought in for install if we have the particular part laying around used. Take for instance the turbo kit we used on the TV show pippes. When we got back that turbo kit went on a customers car that bought and payed for a new turbo kit.
The "famous" versa that is in the magazine that made 270 whp...... that number was made up. What a shock.
He put a stock engine back into someones car (i think his name was Bobby) when the guy paid for a built one.
The list goes on. I will type more later if this doesnt get deleted.
Brad
I designed the very first kit on these cars back in i guess 2005 or what ever. At that point Kenny decided to start selling these kits. Not a bad thing, but he sold alot of them and told many lies about this thing. He had already sold 15-20 kits before i was even done with the first kit. This how things work with everything around ZPI. The engine limiter was never tested. We made one on a car from Tenn. and then Kenny started selling them that night. Never Tested. So they have now idea the bad effects that may or may not come from this.
They advertise parts that they can not deliver without a long wait on the customers end. Such as a 3 inch exhaust. First one of those they ever made was on the car from Tenn. again. That was also the last while i was there. Also the balance shaft delete kit doesent exist.
The ported heads that they sell are junk. they have a bottom feeding shop here in town run some sanding rolls around in the head to make it look special and sell it.
They will install used parts on a customers car that is brought in for install if we have the particular part laying around used. Take for instance the turbo kit we used on the TV show pippes. When we got back that turbo kit went on a customers car that bought and payed for a new turbo kit.
The "famous" versa that is in the magazine that made 270 whp...... that number was made up. What a shock.
He put a stock engine back into someones car (i think his name was Bobby) when the guy paid for a built one.
The list goes on. I will type more later if this doesnt get deleted.
Brad
08-07-2007 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Menace
I have no idea how credible this is, however, I do not see any motivation for this person to lie to such extent.
Probably just sour that he lost his job. Could be motivation.
Im Sure within the 4 months he was an employee, EVERYTHING this man speeks is credible...NOT
Im Sure just like the other guy that got caned, he designed the versa kit too, so he KNOWS how much power its making
Theres alot of things that dont add up, one of them is this guy.
Please, proceed with the endless post of garbage so we can find out whats going to happen in a couple months.
If you want to know the conclusion of all this, then your just gonna have to wait until all the legal crap is finished. No matter how many PM's you all send eachother.
08-07-2007 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Menace
After reading all of this, and the other, now locked thread, I will refrain from writing an I told you so speech. I am just wondering at what point will the Kenny faithful cut their losses (if they ever will) and admit to the sub par (to be modest) business practices ZPI has demonstrated over the 4 years or so. Now, its even more difficult to dispute where their interests lie. Who's ever fault it is, it's rather simple to conclude that they are looking for their own best interests at the expense of their customers. Between the long shipping, bunch of lies (did you hear about the welder breaking a finger lmao), crappy work (except you rhythm, yes, we know), and a bunch of other horse poop in between, this can hardly come as a surprise to those who have not been oblivious to reality and the experiences of sadly too many innocent and hopefully uninformed customers. Even if, Kenny wanted to embark on new ventures, he is not the first linchpin to leave a company. Most companies however, don't get thrown into such turmoil. There is no excuse for what ZPI did/doing to their, unfortunately (ex)devoted customers. And for those still sticking up for Kenny is just sickening. Thats like saying "Charles Manson didn't do anything wrong to me, he was always nice and took care of me when I went to visit him, he is a pretty cool dude".
To those that say ZPI has been great except recently, must have amnesia. I am surprised they lasted this long. I was amazed at their popularity even 4 months ago, they had probably most negative experiences except for maybe tctunerz and scionspeed. Yet, because of the 3-4 regulars being so vocal and outspoken marketing representatives for ZPI, the not so fortunate folks who did not put enough research into their investments ended biting the bullet. I feel pain for all those missing parts and cars with no light at the end of the tunnel.
As much bashing and flaming I will endure for this post, I feel that some may not have read it from the locked thread and need to. I have no idea how credible this is, however, I do not see any motivation for this person to lie to such extent. Here it is:
To those that say ZPI has been great except recently, must have amnesia. I am surprised they lasted this long. I was amazed at their popularity even 4 months ago, they had probably most negative experiences except for maybe tctunerz and scionspeed. Yet, because of the 3-4 regulars being so vocal and outspoken marketing representatives for ZPI, the not so fortunate folks who did not put enough research into their investments ended biting the bullet. I feel pain for all those missing parts and cars with no light at the end of the tunnel.
As much bashing and flaming I will endure for this post, I feel that some may not have read it from the locked thread and need to. I have no idea how credible this is, however, I do not see any motivation for this person to lie to such extent. Here it is:
First off, i know that there are going to be people that are going to come on here and defend Kenny and ZPI to the death, all i have to say to that is you have nothing to dispute with me. This is all first hand information that i have witness or other employees have witnessed.
I designed the very first kit on these cars back in i guess 2005 or what ever. At that point Kenny decided to start selling these kits. Not a bad thing, but he sold alot of them and told many lies about this thing. He had already sold 15-20 kits before i was even done with the first kit. This how things work with everything around ZPI. The engine limiter was never tested. We made one on a car from Tenn. and then Kenny started selling them that night. Never Tested. So they have now idea the bad effects that may or may not come from this.
They advertise parts that they can not deliver without a long wait on the customers end. Such as a 3 inch exhaust. First one of those they ever made was on the car from Tenn. again. That was also the last while i was there. Also the balance shaft delete kit doesent exist.
The ported heads that they sell are junk. they have a bottom feeding shop here in town run some sanding rolls around in the head to make it look special and sell it.
They will install used parts on a customers car that is brought in for install if we have the particular part laying around used. Take for instance the turbo kit we used on the TV show pippes. When we got back that turbo kit went on a customers car that bought and payed for a new turbo kit.
The "famous" versa that is in the magazine that made 270 whp...... that number was made up. What a shock.
He put a stock engine back into someones car (i think his name was Bobby) when the guy paid for a built one.
The list goes on. I will type more later if this doesnt get deleted.
Brad
I designed the very first kit on these cars back in i guess 2005 or what ever. At that point Kenny decided to start selling these kits. Not a bad thing, but he sold alot of them and told many lies about this thing. He had already sold 15-20 kits before i was even done with the first kit. This how things work with everything around ZPI. The engine limiter was never tested. We made one on a car from Tenn. and then Kenny started selling them that night. Never Tested. So they have now idea the bad effects that may or may not come from this.
They advertise parts that they can not deliver without a long wait on the customers end. Such as a 3 inch exhaust. First one of those they ever made was on the car from Tenn. again. That was also the last while i was there. Also the balance shaft delete kit doesent exist.
The ported heads that they sell are junk. they have a bottom feeding shop here in town run some sanding rolls around in the head to make it look special and sell it.
They will install used parts on a customers car that is brought in for install if we have the particular part laying around used. Take for instance the turbo kit we used on the TV show pippes. When we got back that turbo kit went on a customers car that bought and payed for a new turbo kit.
The "famous" versa that is in the magazine that made 270 whp...... that number was made up. What a shock.
He put a stock engine back into someones car (i think his name was Bobby) when the guy paid for a built one.
The list goes on. I will type more later if this doesnt get deleted.
Brad
HOly CraP1
AMEN!!!!