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Old 05-02-2005, 02:47 PM
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I always use synthetic.
I use mobil 1 on my tc as well.
But I use royal purple in my honda.
Why?
I have no idea ahhaha.
Well toyota race cars use Mobil 1 so i might as well do the same =).
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:54 PM
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do you use the same oil filters when you use synthetic?

and you change every 5k now?
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How late is to late? I already had my first oil change..i have had my tC for almost 7 months now and have 4,144 miles on it now. I want to use Synthetic but i heard you dont have to? I am not sure. Also if i want to change the tranny fluid (manual) to synthetic aswell do i take it to a place? I have never changed any oil type fluids on a car before, dont want to start with my tC.
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i think there is anotehr type of filter, especially for synthetic oil. how much is the cost btw for people who've done this switch already.
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Originally Posted by scoobyroo2002
How late is to late? I already had my first oil change..i have had my tC for almost 7 months now and have 4,144 miles on it now. I want to use Synthetic but i heard you dont have to? I am not sure. Also if i want to change the tranny fluid (manual) to synthetic aswell do i take it to a place? I have never changed any oil type fluids on a car before, dont want to start with my tC.
i think late is like 60,000 or like 100,000 miles.. 4k miles is still a new engine.. if you do not want to do the work yourself.. buy the oil and have a shop do it.. you will only have to pay for the laybor... the reason i say buy the oils yourself is to make sure you get what you want...
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O OK..thanks! yeah i never changed the oil before in any car. I have always taken it to a place. I will ask my dad to help me, but my co-worker offered to show me how to do it. What's the best Sythetic blend out there? and if i waited until 5,000 it wont hurt right? I was going to get the mobile 1 stuff?

Also, i think this has been discussed before, and i apoligize ahead of time for asking again, But what are the benefits of switching to synthetic? Better preformance? Smoother running engine? Please tell me.
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Originally Posted by scoobyroo2002
O OK..thanks! yeah i never changed the oil before in any car. I have always taken it to a place. I will ask my dad to help me, but my co-worker offered to show me how to do it. What's the best Sythetic blend out there? and if i waited until 5,000 it wont hurt right? I was going to get the mobile 1 stuff?

Also, i think this has been discussed before, and i apoligize ahead of time for asking again, But what are the benefits of switching to synthetic? Better preformance? Smoother running engine? Please tell me.
Someone else listed some of the benefits above. Synthetic takes much, much longer to break down, and is a much cleaner oil. Good post from Petem above regarding the dino/synth myth. Synthetic is made from regular oil, only the best parts are taken out and used and the rest is discarded. It is never too late to change it over. I have changed over engines that had 100,000 miles on them, then driven them to 200,000 (thats right, drive the wheels off of em ) I have used Valvoline Synthetic, and now use Mobile 1. It is good stuff.
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I have another question sorry. For the oil filter do i have to change to a different one too special for synthetic oils? What will i need if i do this myself. Where is the filter drain plug etc. I am sorry i have never done this before and i want to try it on my own, when i asked my co-worker he thought i was kidding..but no one ever showed me how to do it.
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Yup yup synthetic baby i used Mobil 1 on my eclipse and decided to try somthing diff on the scion I used that royal Purple Full synthetic what do you guys think about this oil?
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:09 AM
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Turned 2000 miles today. Used my first freebee oil change and I brought them 4 quarts of AMSOIL to put in my tC.
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Royal Purple since 5000.
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Old 05-03-2005, 01:01 AM
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Sweet royal Purple so far seems liek it made it a lil smoother an dim glad im not the only one using this oil how do you like it? wait Toyota still honors that free oil changes even though your not using their stuff? or where they nice enough to take it/
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Originally Posted by scoobyroo2002
I have another question sorry. For the oil filter do i have to change to a different one too special for synthetic oils? What will i need if i do this myself. Where is the filter drain plug etc. I am sorry i have never done this before and i want to try it on my own, when i asked my co-worker he thought i was kidding..but no one ever showed me how to do it.
You couldnt pick an easier car to learn on regarding oil changes. Just jack up the front (use jackstands!) lay underneath, and you will see the oil pan. The oil filter is right next to it facing straight down, so it is super easy to get to. Unscrew the oil plug and drain the oil. Use an oil filter wrench to remove the filter after draining the oil. To put on the new filter, rub a little bit of new oil on the new seal, and put it back on BY HAND. Do not tighten with the oil filter wrench! Hand tight is plenty. The oil seal will swell and tighten the filter even more, so if you use a wrench to tighten it, you will have one hell of a time next time! One thing to always check is that the seal stays on the original filter when you pull it off... every now and then one will stick to the block. If so, just pull it off.

Dont appologize for asking, you would have no way of knowing if you have never been taught!
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Originally Posted by tc05
Sweet royal Purple so far seems liek it made it a lil smoother an dim glad im not the only one using this oil how do you like it? wait Toyota still honors that free oil changes even though your not using their stuff? or where they nice enough to take it/
They will, but you have to supply the oil. The bad part is that they do not make up the difference between the conventional oil they would have used and what you bring in. So you are really just getting a filter and a drain and replace for free.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by scoobyroo2002
I have another question sorry. For the oil filter do i have to change to a different one too special for synthetic oils? What will i need if i do this myself. Where is the filter drain plug etc. I am sorry i have never done this before and i want to try it on my own, when i asked my co-worker he thought i was kidding..but no one ever showed me how to do it.
You couldnt pick an easier car to learn on regarding oil changes. Just jack up the front (use jackstands!) lay underneath, and you will see the oil pan. The oil filter is right next to it facing straight down, so it is super easy to get to. Unscrew the oil plug and drain the oil. Use an oil filter wrench to remove the filter after draining the oil. To put on the new filter, rub a little bit of new oil on the new seal, and put it back on BY HAND. Do not tighten with the oil filter wrench! Hand tight is plenty. The oil seal will swell and tighten the filter even more, so if you use a wrench to tighten it, you will have one hell of a time next time! One thing to always check is that the seal stays on the original filter when you pull it off... every now and then one will stick to the block. If so, just pull it off.

Dont appologize for asking, you would have no way of knowing if you have never been taught!
dude, i feel like you are god and i should worship you for your attitude and sharing of knowledge... ok, maybe not that far, but thanks for the info. i used to live in manhattan in nyc, and there were no such things as garages or driveways, so i never got to learn how to change my oil. glad i picked up every bit of information.

btw, everyone should go download the tech manuals from this guy's website: http://mancide.net/scion/tech/ i forgot the original poster who owns the website, and am too lazy to find it. shout out to him for giving up the free bandwidth. i'm reading it and just for kicks, i know the lubrication system of the engine now... not like im going to rebuild it or anything.. just very interesting stuff.
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I like this product
http://www.motul.com/uk/produits/index.html
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how do i go about getting these special synthetic oil filters???
Where?
Which one?
the works!!!!
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Check this out for all your 411 on Synthetic Oil and other oils!
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52480

You can buy a Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil filter. The part number for xB/xA/tC is M1-103
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Every to be said has been...but nothing but Mobil1 for me.
My Escort was run solely on Mobil1 15w50. Blew the oil supply line to the turbo and it was still doing over 100mph under 9psi with rod knock, and never actually threw a rod. I was impressed...even though it has been diven in so long.
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more info:



Let's break down the details of synthetics, and what makes them better. One definition of "synthetic" is big molecules built up from small ones. Like genetic engineers, the oil companies figured they could improve the performance of engine oil and eliminate some of the shortcomings in the laboratory.

In the simplest terms, the base stock of synthetics, polyalphaolefin (PAO) starts as ethylene gas, a simple two-carbon molecule that is built up to a 10-carbon molecule. Three of these super molecules are combined to form PAO, a base stock that offers a number of advantages over Mother Nature's version. Synthetics are more stable, flow at lower temperatures, are more resistant to boiling off, and less susceptible to oxidation, which causes thickening with prolonged high temperatures.

The inherent element with crude stock for motor oil is the molecular construction. Conventional motor oil is a batch of short-chain and long-chair carbon and hydrogen atoms. In extreme heat, the short chains can evaporate and these unstable molecules oxidize and break down. In addition, contaminants and reactive and/or unstable hydrocarbons can sneak through the refining process.


from: http://www.advanceautoparts.com/engl...0050201so.html
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