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Old 10-22-2004 | 02:42 AM
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Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....

That equals about $3.30 a quart!!

They raped me on the price beacuse they had to "special order it"...( I know, How lame does that sound- you have to special order TOYOTA oil!)

Im wondering how much others paid, and If thiers A website thats cheaper...
Old 10-22-2004 | 03:19 AM
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Unless it's a pure synthetic oil, you got ripped off.
Return it and get a refund.

Any name brand motor oil will work fine.
It's about $1.80 a quart.
Old 10-22-2004 | 03:38 AM
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Why would you special order Toyota oil? Pep Boys has a ____load. Any name-brand oil will work just fine if you change it regularly. Toyota oil filters, on the other hand, are a wise investment.
Old 10-22-2004 | 04:08 AM
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Sorry, Forgot to mention that I live in a small town ( about 30k people) - the oil itself was $25 for 12 quarts, but they tached on $12.95 for shipping!

next time I will order synthetic oil from Toyota- the parts guy wasnt sure if it was a TRD Item or not-
but as for Pep-boys- We dont have one! only a NAPA that carries a BUNCH of pensoil-...
Old 10-22-2004 | 05:17 PM
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well toyota (in chicago anyway) does not make oil, they put there name on another brands bottle, same with break fluid and Type-T ATF...

you could have gone to the gas station and gotten to the same oil (mobil) for much less..
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Default Re: Cost of Toyota 5W-30 OIL.....

Originally Posted by UnFocused
Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....
Even Toyota dealers don't use Toyota oil! They use whatever oil is cheapest from their jobber!

Toyota didn't operate an oil refinery, so Toyota oil is simply relabeled oil from a supplier like Mobil, Shell, etc.


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Old 10-22-2004 | 08:02 PM
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Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....
Even Toyota dealers don't use Toyota oil! They use whatever oil is cheapest from their jobber!

Toyota didn't operate an oil refinery, so Toyota oil is simply relabeled oil from a supplier like Mobil, Shell, etc.


George
Actually, Toyota oil is not the same as any other brand... they purchase their oil and then refine and modify it to their specification. Honda does this too.
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why would you buy toyota oil...


dont you get free oil changes?!
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Originally Posted by UnFocused
Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....
Even Toyota dealers don't use Toyota oil! They use whatever oil is cheapest from their jobber!

Toyota didn't operate an oil refinery, so Toyota oil is simply relabeled oil from a supplier like Mobil, Shell, etc.


George
Actually, Toyota oil is not the same as any other brand... they purchase their oil and then refine and modify it to their specification. Honda does this too.
Where did you learn this?
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Toyota branded motor oil is not the same as the stuff you can grab off the shelves at AutoZone. Toyota purchases the oil from whoever, and then the oil is processed and modified through a refinery until it meets their specification. Honda does this too.
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That's odd, my reply appeared before the post I replied to. Perhaps the orignal poster edited their post?

Same question, though. Where did that info come from?

George
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Originally Posted by George
That's odd, my reply appeared before the post I replied to. Perhaps the orignal poster edited their post?

Same question, though. Where did that info come from?

George
I think you're right too. I agree Toyota buys there oil from another oil company that meets there needs and specs. Usually the cheapest one. All car manufactors do. They don't have the resources to actually refine and can oil. If they did you would see way more of it. That's why it's so high because much of it isn't canned as say Moblie or Exxon. They might tell you it's been refine to meet they're specs but they're in it to sell cars not oil remember. My dad has been in the oil biz for over 40 years. I use Mobile 1 Sys. in all of my stuff. But I use 10W30 since I live in the south.
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What happens is that Toyota takes the oil that they have purchased and it is filtered and modified through a refinery. Endoplasmic reticulum takes place inside the refinery whereupon the molecular structure of the oil is altered for smoother synthesis.
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Originally Posted by titanium *****
What happens is that Toyota takes the oil that they have purchased and it is filtered and modified through a refinery. Endoplasmic reticulum takes place inside the refinery whereupon the molecular structure of the oil is altered for smoother synthesis.
Who told you that a Toyota rep? More than likely. See like I said they will tell you that but they really don't. Beleive me man. I've done nothing but work in oil all my life.
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Originally Posted by LowProMofo
Originally Posted by titanium *****
What happens is that Toyota takes the oil that they have purchased and it is filtered and modified through a refinery. Endoplasmic reticulum takes place inside the refinery whereupon the molecular structure of the oil is altered for smoother synthesis.
Who told you that a Toyota rep? More than likely. See like I said they will tell you that but they really don't. Beleive me man. I've done nothing but work in oil all my life.
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I usually buy 3 toyota filters at a time, about $5 each. Then off to WalMart or Costco where you can get Mobil 1synthetic for between $4-5/qt. So an oil change costs me $20-25. Takes about 10 minutes. I keep all the reciepts for the service manager, who says that's cool for the warantee. It's soo cheap this way so I do it every 4k miles. I own both an xA and a 2003 Echo, both the same routine.
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Default Re: Cost of Toyota 5W-30 OIL.....

Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by titanium *****
Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by UnFocused
Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....
Even Toyota dealers don't use Toyota oil! They use whatever oil is cheapest from their jobber!

Toyota didn't operate an oil refinery, so Toyota oil is simply relabeled oil from a supplier like Mobil, Shell, etc.


George
Actually, Toyota oil is not the same as any other brand... they purchase their oil and then refine and modify it to their specification. Honda does this too.
Where did you learn this?
my old dealer uses some exxon crap
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Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by titanium *****
Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by UnFocused
Ok I paid $40 For a 12 quarts of Toyota 5W-30 oil at my "friendly" Toyota dealer....
Even Toyota dealers don't use Toyota oil! They use whatever oil is cheapest from their jobber!

Toyota didn't operate an oil refinery, so Toyota oil is simply relabeled oil from a supplier like Mobil, Shell, etc.


George
Actually, Toyota oil is not the same as any other brand... they purchase their oil and then refine and modify it to their specification. Honda does this too.
Where did you learn this?
my old dealer uses some exxon crap
Exxon is pretty good oil, who do you think makes and owns Mobil? Exxon!
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toyota contracted with mobil to supply toyota branded oil.. it's in mobil's website under the PR news section.. they have supplied all the lubricants for the toyota race team as well as factory/dealer supplied oil.. so it's mobil 5w-30..
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Originally Posted by LowProMofo
Originally Posted by George
That's odd, my reply appeared before the post I replied to. Perhaps the orignal poster edited their post?

Same question, though. Where did that info come from?

George
I think you're right too. I agree Toyota buys there oil from another oil company that meets there needs and specs. Usually the cheapest one. All car manufactors do. They don't have the resources to actually refine and can oil. If they did you would see way more of it. That's why it's so high because much of it isn't canned as say Moblie or Exxon. They might tell you it's been refine to meet they're specs but they're in it to sell cars not oil remember. My dad has been in the oil biz for over 40 years. I use Mobile 1 Sys. in all of my stuff. But I use 10W30 since I live in the south.
I totally agree with LowProMofo.

A number of reasons why Toyota didn't "refine" the oil.
1. Toyota is in the market for making cars, not oil.
2. Refining oil that is already sold on the market would cost too much for the small benifit, and would only cost more on their part because they really aren't experts in the field. Their profit margin on the oil would be cut too much if they refined it. The guys upstairs will be asking,
"Why do we have to spend billions dollars to build and upkeep a refinery to refine oil who's sales are not in high volume and the market would pretty much be limited to only Toyota owners, as other marques aren't going to buy Toyota oil."
"Our profit margin will be much better if we just pay to change the label and bottling of the oil, but price it higher as a premium "Toyota Oil" for the Toyota diehards. Any small addition in quality that the current oil manufactures haven't already found will not be worth the additional investment for such a low volume sale!!"

If they say this oil is special because it meets their specs, then it's because the oil they got from somebody else ALREADY meets there specs.

If the sales folks say different, it's because,
1. They are trying to decive.
2. Been told to tell you that, not realizing they are deciving you.
3. Didn't get the story right because they got it 3rd, 4th, or 5th hand...

When I bought my xA, one of the finance guys was trying to tell me no car comes with a clear coat. I quote, "I've been in sales for 14 years and we've never sold cars with clear coats, plus I applied it on all my personal cars." I tried with all my might to keep from laughing.. It's because they were trying to sell me a "clear coat" for my car for $1k.
I asked for more info, in print, on the "clear coat" they were putting on my car that "didn't" have a clear coat. He said he didn't have any, and but forwarded me to the guys who apply it. I went there and asked them.
"No, this isn't a clear coat. It's a clear coat sealant. All cars already come with a clear coat."
I turned around and told the finance guy. He was in shock. You know what's funny, yet scary, I think his shock was genuin(sp)!

I had another Audi sales guy try to tell me once that an Audi TT can go 260mph. I told him, you must be mistaken, perhaps kph? No, he corrected me, mph.
I looked at him and could not believe he was so sure of himself when he told me this. I asked him if there was any aero dynamic changes to the body as something going that fast has a lot of wind resistance. He said no.
Looking at him again, seeing his confidence, I knew I'd be just wasting my time trying to explain the physics restricting such a feat in such a car. I just smiled and walked away, and couldn't wait to tell my buddies...

Not trying to say that everything they say is fauls, or they are always trying to decive us, but lets say that manytimes they are missinformed, told to say something regardless, or don't get the story right. Although, there are a share of sneaky ones out there.

I see all the time in my line of work in our company when I'm with sales visiting our international customers.. It doesn't only occur in the auto business...



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