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Old 07-12-2004 | 07:25 AM
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actually some Honda's have a "break in" oil- with scion- just change it every 3-5 k
Old 07-14-2004 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dgHotLava
ride it hard for the first 20 miles then change out the "break in" oil.
the oil in the car when you get it is dino oil plus other greases like cam lube.

running it longer is not good.
There must not be many mechanics on this board because this statement is true. The initial oil in a new motor is called break-in oil and needs to be changed before a typical oil change should occur. You guys who are laughing go on ahead and keep it in your car. Personally I will be changing mine (by myself mind you) at 1k miles, 3k miles and every 2.5k-3k thereafter.
Old 07-14-2004 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Shabba
There must not be many mechanics on this board because this statement is true. The initial oil in a new motor is called break-in oil and needs to be changed before a typical oil change should occur. You guys who are laughing go on ahead and keep it in your car. Personally I will be changing mine (by myself mind you) at 1k miles, 3k miles and every 2.5k-3k thereafter.
exactly....there is "break-in" oil in every new vehicle....this is true...

im gonna use Mobil 1 5W30 synthetic and my first oil change will be at exactly 1K miles then another oil change at 3K and every 3K after that.....i guess u could say im gonna baby this car a lil much :D
Old 07-14-2004 | 11:04 AM
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it's not special oil...it's oil with other additives. do you think they would make you drive around for 5k miles with bad oil in the car? they would require that you change the oil if it was needed, the car is warranteed after all.


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Old 07-14-2004 | 01:02 PM
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As I said before, if the tC had to have the oil change at the first 1000 miles, then why does the owner's manual say 5000? You can rest assured that if it had to be changed at 1000 there would be more signs than there are VIN #s put on the car telling us to change so we would not ruin our engines.

BTW, I will call my Scion service department and get their take and write back.

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Old 07-14-2004 | 02:40 PM
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I have my oil changes, tires, and air filters paid for for the next 6 years with my dealership. It costs a little extra, but when you factor in the costs of that other stuff on your own... you end up saving a ton of money.

As for me? I'm following the Maint Book to the "T". Whatever the book says, I'm doing it and it's all being done at the dealership and being documented. When it comes time to sell a car, if your maint log is pristine, and you are one owner... your car keeps a TON of it's value. Not to mention... if these cars go up 2-3k in price next year like many predict... this first year tC will be even worth more value when it comes time to sell in 4-5 years.
Old 07-14-2004 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Shabba
Originally Posted by dgHotLava
ride it hard for the first 20 miles then change out the "break in" oil.
the oil in the car when you get it is dino oil plus other greases like cam lube.

running it longer is not good.
There must not be many mechanics on this board because this statement is true. The initial oil in a new motor is called break-in oil and needs to be changed before a typical oil change should occur. You guys who are laughing go on ahead and keep it in your car. Personally I will be changing mine (by myself mind you) at 1k miles, 3k miles and every 2.5k-3k thereafter.
You do not have to change the oil at 1k. Not all manufacturers do things the same way. 5k for heavy duty driving 7.5 k for light duty
Old 07-14-2004 | 04:40 PM
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As promised, I talked to Scion service and there is NO break in oil. They recommend changing every 3000 to 4000 miles (depending on your driving habits).

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Old 07-16-2004 | 05:28 AM
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What about the break in gas?
Old 07-16-2004 | 11:27 PM
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Oh god... new engines when manyfactured are sprayed with cosmolin to prevent metal shavings and the like from collecting... there is no break in oil in the car. The cars come equipped with the standard toyota 10W30 oil... older cars prior to the 90's did have a break in period and some other manufacturers still do...

I know cause I am a service advisor from a toyota dealer and I just showed my techs this post about "break in oil" and they all laughed, so yes there are some mechanics on this board. Keep the recommended schedule or whatever your comfortable with.
Old 07-17-2004 | 01:26 PM
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We get 3 free oil changes at my dealership.
Old 07-17-2004 | 02:17 PM
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forget that, i'll do my own L;O;F; (lube, oil, filter) thank you very MUCH!!!

i'll change the oil at 500 miles then at 2500, then every 3000 miles or 3 months which ever comes first, really id it every 3 months (ie: first day of every season :D ) thats just me though...
Old 07-17-2004 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rice Kake
What about the break in gas?
lmfao
Old 07-17-2004 | 02:54 PM
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the real time to change the oil is when its black like coffee lol thats when you really need to change your oil lol
Old 07-17-2004 | 05:48 PM
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And Remember that you should also check your oil everytime you get gas... some oil consumption will occure with any cars and keeping the proper levels is important. Having a quart of two in the car at all times is never a bad idea...
Old 07-18-2004 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KrAuSeScIoN
Originally Posted by Shabba
Originally Posted by dgHotLava

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You do not have to change the oil at 1k. Not all manufacturers do things the same way. 5k for heavy duty driving 7.5 k for light duty
Never said you had to at 1k miles, just that I would. :D
Old 07-18-2004 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ Focus
Oh god... new engines when manyfactured are sprayed with cosmolin to prevent metal shavings and the like from collecting... there is no break in oil in the car. The cars come equipped with the standard toyota 10W30 oil... older cars prior to the 90's did have a break in period and some other manufacturers still do...

I know cause I am a service advisor from a toyota dealer and I just showed my techs this post about "break in oil" and they all laughed, so yes there are some mechanics on this board. Keep the recommended schedule or whatever your comfortable with.
I think that a lot of guys are getting the impression a few of us are stating that there is a break-in oil in the motor like it's a brand or certain type of oil...all that "break-in oil" infers is that the first amount of oil in a new engine is subject to a lot of crap what with a new engine breaking in and having additives and other bits floating in it. It is whatever brand oil Toyota put in the motor and I'm sure it's lovely stuff, but my new motor will have new oil in it tommorow to flush ANYTHING out that might be there from the motor breaking in. I am glad your "techs" find the post amusing...do they also change air in their tires on a regular basis so it does not get old?
Old 07-18-2004 | 03:21 PM
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Man this is a funny thread!
Old 07-18-2004 | 10:32 PM
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Old 07-20-2004 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ Focus
Oh god... new engines when manyfactured are sprayed with cosmolin to prevent metal shavings and the like from collecting... there is no break in oil in the car. The cars come equipped with the standard toyota 10W30 oil... older cars prior to the 90's did have a break in period and some other manufacturers still do...

I know cause I am a service advisor from a toyota dealer and I just showed my techs this post about "break in oil" and they all laughed.....
1. Cosmoline is sprayed on the OUTSIDE of the engine and chassis for rust prevention. It is NOT sprayed inside and NOT used to 'prevent metal shavings'.

2. The Scions use 5W30, not 10W30.

3. The Scion most certainly has a break-in period. Read the manual. The manual tells you to vary your speed and avoid hard acceleration during break-in.

I have no idea if what you're saying about the break-in oil is right or not... but judging by your other assertions, you'll have to excuse me if I'm a little skeptical, Mr. Service Advisor.


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