Notices
Maintenance & Car Care Tune-ups and shake-downs...

Gas station preference?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-14-2005 | 05:18 AM
  #21  
jct's Avatar
jct
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,961
Default

i don't care what gas station i goto, but right now i goto speedway cause i have that little discount card thingy
Old 12-14-2005 | 05:40 AM
  #22  
mikochu's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Premium Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,525
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

I'm a BP *****. Otherwise, it's Mobil or Chevron. I rarely go to Citgo or Shell...although I have a card for each one. lol
Old 12-14-2005 | 12:07 PM
  #23  
lex990's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 192
From: varies
Default

i go to this place called P's quick stop... their pumps don't say who their supplier is... however, it is the only place it the little town that i work that sells beer so i gotta go there lol
Old 12-14-2005 | 12:14 PM
  #24  
JoeDarkness's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 184
From: Puerto Rico
Default

Shell, Exxon (Esso in P.R.) or Gulf
Old 12-15-2005 | 06:47 PM
  #25  
jmiller20874's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,004
From: Germantown, MD
Default

Chevron 99% of the time. My local Chevron is cheaper than the rest by about .03 - .05 a gallon plus Techron keeps your valves clean. I'll never use Exxon/Mobil.
Old 12-15-2005 | 07:07 PM
  #26  
TimmyT's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scion Society
SL Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,253
From: Sanger, CA
Default

I use Shell cause V-Power sounds more masculine than Techron.... Really i have no reason why So i made one up I guess its just because there is a shell close to my home and its a force of habit.
Old 12-17-2005 | 08:51 PM
  #27  
ScionNick's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18
Default

If you want ALL the inforamation on Gas, Gas addatives and who makes what I suggest two articles......One is in the June 2005 Issue of Super Street and the other is in the July issue of Sport Compact Car.....They cover pretty much everything you need or will want to know.
Old 12-17-2005 | 08:53 PM
  #28  
ScionNick's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18
Default

July 2005 of Sport Compact....Sorry about that.....And of course June 2005 Supre Street
Old 12-28-2005 | 12:50 AM
  #29  
quantum's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 48
From: So Cal
Default

I use Chevron or Shell
Old 01-16-2006 | 07:08 AM
  #30  
washbeezy16's Avatar
Junior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 11
Default

my bro in law works for conocophilips- as for gas in the midwest- here's how it rolls. QT aka quiktrip has the cleanest gas. this means that they use 3 detergents in their gas while many other reputable places use two. the cheap places only use gas with one detergent additive.

when i lived in cali, i swore by chevron- as others have said, it seemed to be the most consistent.

when i lived in oklahoma QT was what i used. it was by far the best gas. i drove a 92 ford explorer w/no compression left and basically a shot engine and any other gas left the car sputtering and underperforming on mileage.

there's no QT in kansas, but i kinda like BP out here. however, while on a trip to NY this summer i was following my tank avg's. on every brand of gas i was getting about 33mpg's. but, on citgo i got about 38. i don't know if that means anything to anyone.
Old 01-16-2006 | 12:26 PM
  #31  
Yoshiofthewire's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 54
Default

I goto Wawa around here for several reasons.
1) Cheap
2) They Will fix my car for free if it breaks my car
3) Actualy Sonoco gas (at the one I goto)
4) Used to work there

All Gas is the same except:
1) Additives
2) Level of Refinment (Exxon gas suckx)
3) Octain (87 is good enuff)

P.S.
Please use Mobile One
This message brought to you by the Letters S & O and the number 401
Old 01-23-2006 | 03:28 AM
  #32  
badger2's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 96
Default

Originally Posted by Kinesi5
i go to HESS...went to mobil/exxon for a little bit until one day fuel started spurting out of my gas inlet and all over my brand new tc and rim...bad experience yes...i was like YO DUDE do something about this, the gas guys like, maybe u dotn know how to pump gas, im like are f-in kiddin me i know how to pump gas - guy played it off hes like, oh no problem lemme just spray some water on it, im like Fthat, this guy didnt give a damn so whateva........but annnnyways i gas it up at HESS cuz its convenient and close to my house and in my head is pretty good gas....maybe all those Hess truck commercials brainwashed me when i was a kid or something but i like it.
I used to work at a gas station and this kept happening on this one pump over and over and over again.

I'd refer people to the manager and she'd say pretty much what happened to you: "Are you sure you did everything properly?" .. even though it was obviously a faulty pump.

In retaliation, I stole a bunch of alcohol, which I snuck out the back door when I was stocking the fridge. I also took a bunch of cigars and a zippo lighter. One time a guy changed his kids diaper in the bathroom and I left it there for the manager to clean up in the morning. Oh yea, I found the manager's car wash code and used it three times a week for two years until they finally changed it.
Old 01-23-2006 | 03:44 AM
  #33  
YNPaul's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 83
From: Summerville, SC
Default

I use shell v power. I used to use hess because I do contract work for hess, but i went to the shell station next to my home two months ago and it made a noticable difference in my car.
Old 01-23-2006 | 04:15 AM
  #34  
bubblemyster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 989
From: Bakersfield, California
Default

im surprised that arco isn't on the top tier list. Also who is BP. All the arco stations seem to have the BP symbol now.
Old 01-23-2006 | 04:19 AM
  #35  
mfbenson's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 684
From: Somewhere, USA
Default

The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company’s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are “unbranded” dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are “branded” stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company’s refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. Even if we knew at which company’s refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources.
And that's from the EIA at the Department of Energy.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/gas04/gasoline.htm

So all this business about "my brand is better than your brand" is a bunch of bunk. What you should do is find a particular individual store that you get performance from and use that store, whatever the brand is. But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good. All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives, and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks.
Old 01-23-2006 | 04:21 AM
  #36  
Xbguy1's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 332
From: Madison, WI
Default

shell
Old 01-23-2006 | 05:35 AM
  #37  
Tomas's Avatar
Admin Emeritus

10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,570
From: University Place, WA
Default

"BP" is British Petroleum who is in the habit of buying up many other brands...
Old 01-23-2006 | 06:01 AM
  #38  
Tomas's Avatar
Admin Emeritus

10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,570
From: University Place, WA
Default

So all this business about "my brand is better than your brand" is a bunch of bunk. What you should do is find a particular individual store that you get performance from and use that store, whatever the brand is. But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good. All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives, and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks.
Not necessarily true. Let me take that a little at a time, OK? OK.

"So all this business about 'my brand is better than your brand' is a bunch of bunk." I many cases, absolutely true, but it is the owner of the "brand" (Chevron, ARCO, Shell, Texaco, etc.) that controls what additive package is added and in what quantities, not the station that dispenses it. (And also which oxygenators are added, and in what quantities.)

That means that "Brand A" and "Brand B" may start from the same stock, but may end up quite different depending on brand.

"But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good." Yes, but not because of different additive packages if it is a "brand name" and in the same local area.

"All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives..." Remember, the additive package and oxygenators added are NOT under control of the individual retail station, but by the "brand owner."

"...and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks." Absolutely! That is the important difference between local stations of the same big name brand.

Different regions also have different regional oddities. Here, for example, some brands come exclusively from Alaska crud, and are refined only at one refinary. Others are brought in from other refineries and have come from other basic stocks. There can be (and sometimes are) large differences between brands...

(Please see much additional information, links, and discussion in this topic: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99679

Are we having fun yet?
Old 01-23-2006 | 02:25 PM
  #39  
mfbenson's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 684
From: Somewhere, USA
Default

"All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives..." Remember, the additive package and oxygenators added are NOT under control of the individual retail station, but by the "brand owner."
Ok, but if you're going to pick nits its generally the wholesaler, which is a middle man that is between the refinery and the retail store, that does the additives, and sometimes those additives are done by the individual tanker truck according the the retailer's specifications. Usually its done on site at the refinery but it is about the last process to occur before the truck leaves the yard and goes out on delivery. Sometimes the additives are specified by the brand owner, as you mention, but that's not always true either. ALL the time (or at least supposed to be all the time) it is requlated by state and/or local laws that specifiy maximum and minimum qualities that the gasoline is supposed to have.

It sometimes hinges on whether the store in question is an independent store, a franchise, or a company-owned chain store. All three can have minor differences from each other.

Having said all that, sometimes the "rules" don't mean a hill of beans in areas with lax enforcement. I used to work at a gas station, one which by law was not allowed to have more than 2 inches of water in the bottom of the tanks (gasoline floats on top of water) and we had more like 2 feet of water in the bottom of ours. We never did get a citation for that, but I used to make sure the tanks never got more than half empty - both to prevent customer problems and to hide the condensation problem too. I doubt most people were as diligent as I was about it though.
Old 01-23-2006 | 02:37 PM
  #40  
SirScion's Avatar
Banned
KAD
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,539
From: Fujiztown
Default

BP IS BAD, BAD, BAD. not because of their gas, but because of the way they treat their employees. In Texas City (near where I am) a BP plant exploded..and they blamed it on the workers, even though the workers had warned them MANY times about it. That explosion killed tons of people.


I use Diamond Shamrock (Valero) Gas is ALWAYS cheaper there, and my car seems happier than with the Shell that is across the street.


Quick Reply: Gas station preference?



All times are GMT. The time now is 05:23 PM.