Gas station preference?
#26
I use Shell cause V-Power sounds more masculine than Techron.... Really i have no reason why So i made one up I guess its just because there is a shell close to my home and its a force of habit.
#27
If you want ALL the inforamation on Gas, Gas addatives and who makes what I suggest two articles......One is in the June 2005 Issue of Super Street and the other is in the July issue of Sport Compact Car.....They cover pretty much everything you need or will want to know.
#30
my bro in law works for conocophilips- as for gas in the midwest- here's how it rolls. QT aka quiktrip has the cleanest gas. this means that they use 3 detergents in their gas while many other reputable places use two. the cheap places only use gas with one detergent additive.
when i lived in cali, i swore by chevron- as others have said, it seemed to be the most consistent.
when i lived in oklahoma QT was what i used. it was by far the best gas. i drove a 92 ford explorer w/no compression left and basically a shot engine and any other gas left the car sputtering and underperforming on mileage.
there's no QT in kansas, but i kinda like BP out here. however, while on a trip to NY this summer i was following my tank avg's. on every brand of gas i was getting about 33mpg's. but, on citgo i got about 38. i don't know if that means anything to anyone.
when i lived in cali, i swore by chevron- as others have said, it seemed to be the most consistent.
when i lived in oklahoma QT was what i used. it was by far the best gas. i drove a 92 ford explorer w/no compression left and basically a shot engine and any other gas left the car sputtering and underperforming on mileage.
there's no QT in kansas, but i kinda like BP out here. however, while on a trip to NY this summer i was following my tank avg's. on every brand of gas i was getting about 33mpg's. but, on citgo i got about 38. i don't know if that means anything to anyone.
#31
I goto Wawa around here for several reasons.
1) Cheap
2) They Will fix my car for free if it breaks my car
3) Actualy Sonoco gas (at the one I goto)
4) Used to work there
All Gas is the same except:
1) Additives
2) Level of Refinment (Exxon gas suckx)
3) Octain (87 is good enuff)
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1) Cheap
2) They Will fix my car for free if it breaks my car
3) Actualy Sonoco gas (at the one I goto)
4) Used to work there
All Gas is the same except:
1) Additives
2) Level of Refinment (Exxon gas suckx)
3) Octain (87 is good enuff)
P.S.
Please use Mobile One
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#32
Originally Posted by Kinesi5
i go to HESS...went to mobil/exxon for a little bit until one day fuel started spurting out of my gas inlet and all over my brand new tc and rim...bad experience yes...i was like YO DUDE do something about this, the gas guys like, maybe u dotn know how to pump gas, im like are f-in kiddin me i know how to pump gas - guy played it off hes like, oh no problem lemme just spray some water on it, im like Fthat, this guy didnt give a damn so whateva........but annnnyways i gas it up at HESS cuz its convenient and close to my house and in my head is pretty good gas....maybe all those Hess truck commercials brainwashed me when i was a kid or something but i like it.
I'd refer people to the manager and she'd say pretty much what happened to you: "Are you sure you did everything properly?" .. even though it was obviously a faulty pump.
In retaliation, I stole a bunch of alcohol, which I snuck out the back door when I was stocking the fridge. I also took a bunch of cigars and a zippo lighter. One time a guy changed his kids diaper in the bathroom and I left it there for the manager to clean up in the morning. Oh yea, I found the manager's car wash code and used it three times a week for two years until they finally changed it.
#35
The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company’s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are “unbranded” dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are “branded” stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company’s refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. Even if we knew at which company’s refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/gas04/gasoline.htm
So all this business about "my brand is better than your brand" is a bunch of bunk. What you should do is find a particular individual store that you get performance from and use that store, whatever the brand is. But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good. All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives, and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks.
#38
So all this business about "my brand is better than your brand" is a bunch of bunk. What you should do is find a particular individual store that you get performance from and use that store, whatever the brand is. But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good. All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives, and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks.
"So all this business about 'my brand is better than your brand' is a bunch of bunk." I many cases, absolutely true, but it is the owner of the "brand" (Chevron, ARCO, Shell, Texaco, etc.) that controls what additive package is added and in what quantities, not the station that dispenses it. (And also which oxygenators are added, and in what quantities.)
That means that "Brand A" and "Brand B" may start from the same stock, but may end up quite different depending on brand.
"But that doesn't mean that other retailers of the same brand will be as good." Yes, but not because of different additive packages if it is a "brand name" and in the same local area.
"All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives..." Remember, the additive package and oxygenators added are NOT under control of the individual retail station, but by the "brand owner."
"...and is probably reasonably conscientious about keeping water and condensation out of the gasoline tanks." Absolutely! That is the important difference between local stations of the same big name brand.
Different regions also have different regional oddities. Here, for example, some brands come exclusively from Alaska crud, and are refined only at one refinary. Others are brought in from other refineries and have come from other basic stocks. There can be (and sometimes are) large differences between brands...
(Please see much additional information, links, and discussion in this topic: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99679
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#39
"All it means is that particular store doesn't overdo or underdo the additives..." Remember, the additive package and oxygenators added are NOT under control of the individual retail station, but by the "brand owner."
It sometimes hinges on whether the store in question is an independent store, a franchise, or a company-owned chain store. All three can have minor differences from each other.
Having said all that, sometimes the "rules" don't mean a hill of beans in areas with lax enforcement. I used to work at a gas station, one which by law was not allowed to have more than 2 inches of water in the bottom of the tanks (gasoline floats on top of water) and we had more like 2 feet of water in the bottom of ours. We never did get a citation for that, but I used to make sure the tanks never got more than half empty - both to prevent customer problems and to hide the condensation problem too. I doubt most people were as diligent as I was about it though.
#40
BP IS BAD, BAD, BAD. not because of their gas, but because of the way they treat their employees. In Texas City (near where I am) a BP plant exploded..and they blamed it on the workers, even though the workers had warned them MANY times about it. That explosion killed tons of people.
I use Diamond Shamrock (Valero) Gas is ALWAYS cheaper there, and my car seems happier than with the Shell that is across the street.
I use Diamond Shamrock (Valero) Gas is ALWAYS cheaper there, and my car seems happier than with the Shell that is across the street.