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Old 06-23-2008 | 01:45 AM
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Ok today my dad washed his car and I guess inadvertantly the gust or whatever got on my brand new waxed car and now there are these swirls that I can't seem to get out of the paint. I tried water and it wouldn't go off so its not dirt, and I tried to smudge it and it worked a little bit but not much. its like the wax on my car all poofed up and gathered together in little circles on my hood. How do i get them away?
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wash car,
claybar,
polish,

and wax.

polish would be your biggest tool in removing swirls i'd say... but be sure to clay it all nice and smooth beforehand.
Old 06-24-2008 | 10:35 PM
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Polish does NOTHING to remove swirls.

To remove you need a paint cleaner such as Meguiars Paint Cleaner or one of their cleaner/polish hybrid's they make for the their professional line, such as #80 and #83.

The swirls are caused by dirt basically trapped in whatever they washed your car with, scratching the clear coat. In order to remove these slight scratches, you need to level off the paint around them, basically, remove thin layers of clearcoat.

You do this with a paint cleaner. Polishes do NOTHING in terms of cleaning the paint or carry any abrasives to correct it. Polishes simply nourish the paint as a step before waxing, for a more deep shine.

Step by step to get rid of them:

1.) Wash your car carefully.
2.) Clay if you can (not needed, but is worth it)
3.) Use a Paint Cleaner
4.) Polish
5.) Good coat of wax.

To save alot of time, try finding meguiars #80 cleaner/polish. It has cleaners and deminsing abrasives to clean the paint and oils to nourish it, instead of doing two steps. You wont find it in a Walmart though...

If you have any questions just PM me, I do car detailing so I know a bit about what to use/do to repair and maintain your paint.

Good Luck!
Old 06-26-2008 | 08:01 PM
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thanks but I washed it a little bit today and I noticed that a few minute after washing there are stains. I think this could be because I waxed my car? I waxed the hood of my car like 3-4 times a week ago before the incident. And today after slight water drops I noticed crust forming similar to the wax I used.

So does waxing and then having water cause this crap? This is really ____ing me off. I went to a car spa today and they ask me for 89.99 to fix this crap because they said I need an acid wash to clean it.
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Nooooo.

You just had water spots which is caused by hard water out of the hose. To prevent this either:

A.) Wash in early morning or late evening, when the sun is not out and the car is cool to the touch. Gives you more time to wash and dry without the water drying up on the paint.

B.) Dry car immediately after washing, so the car does not get these spots. But try to do A whenever possible.

If I ever wash my car in the sunlight I constantly re-wet area's I did first to stop it from heating up in the sun. Then right after im done I pull it in the garage and dry asap.

Also, no need to wax 3-4 times, ever. One coat is all you need, MAYBE two just to make sure you have even coverage and will give a little more protection. Anymore then that and its worthless, you are not able to "layer" a wax usually more then the second coat.

Also make sure to use a good car wash, that may help as well. I use meguiars deep crystal car wash and their gold glass shampoo and conditioner (lol!).
Old 06-27-2008 | 03:13 PM
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does using a meguiar car wash or anything commerical car was cleanse the car of the wax so I need to rewax it? I actually finally went to a car wash and they manage to get most of it out but I was wondering if I need to wax again.
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First off, AVOID car washes at all costs (unless they are touchless), but still, those car washes will put swirl marks all over your car. You should see the damage that can be caused by one pass through those things. Most of us here will avoid them at all costs and do it ourselves with the proper stuff so we don't scratch and ruin our paint finish.

And no, proper car wash (not dish soap for example) will not remove the wax. You will only need to reapply wax every 3-4 months depending on conditions.
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when you say touchless, do you mean one of those machines? Yes, I did it at one of those machines and they cleaned up majority of the stains. It wasn't a "hand" car wash they just dried it up.
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I mean the car-washes that don't use any brushes to clean the car, but JUST high pressure water.

Touchless washes!
Old 07-06-2008 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Farcus001
Ok today my dad washed his car and I guess inadvertantly the gust or whatever got on my brand new waxed car and now there are these swirls that I can't seem to get out of the paint. I tried water and it wouldn't go off so its not dirt, and I tried to smudge it and it worked a little bit but not much. its like the wax on my car all poofed up and gathered together in little circles on my hood. How do i get them away?
I agree almost with the below, with a couple of my personal favourites.


Originally Posted by Invertalon
1.) Wash your car carefully.
2.) Clay if you can (not needed, but is worth it)
3.) Use a Paint Cleaner
4.) Polish
5.) Good coat of wax.
1. Turbo Wax Shampoo
2. TW Oxidation & Bug Bar (it's easier to use than a clay bar)
3. TW Cleaner Wax
4. TW Swirl Remover
5. TW Wax

http://www.turbowax.com/home.php?xid...f547091d81654f

Definitely stay well away from car washes of any kind, unless an emergency like Lime on your car after going through road works or something.
Old 07-07-2008 | 04:20 AM
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1. Turbo Wax Shampoo
2. TW Oxidation & Bug Bar (it's easier to use than a clay bar)
3. TW Cleaner Wax
4. TW Swirl Remover
5. TW Wax
Why would you use a cleaner wax, only to remove the wax with the swirl remover? You can do steps 3 & 4 together by just using a product like Meguiars #80 or #83, a cleaner/polish. Amazing product and works like a charm. Just doesn't make sense to use a cleaner-wax to then basically remove the wax after. Use a strict paint cleaner if possible!
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