Random Orbital Buffer...Which one to get and how?
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Random Orbital Buffer...Which one to get and how?
I keep hearing this and that about Random Orbital Buffers but with no real good advice so....
Which Random Orbital Buffer do you guys recommend? And how would I use it to get rid of minor scratches that go down to the primer?
I have the touch-up paint, but these scratches are annoying the crap outta me. I've always been one to do it myself but I've never used one for such an application.
Which Random Orbital Buffer do you guys recommend? And how would I use it to get rid of minor scratches that go down to the primer?
I have the touch-up paint, but these scratches are annoying the crap outta me. I've always been one to do it myself but I've never used one for such an application.
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Porter Cable PC 7424 with edge 2000 foam pad system. No buffer will remove scratches down to the primer, you have to touch-up the scratch, wet sand to make it level with the existing paint, then buff the wetsanding marks away.
#4
Originally Posted by jmiller20874
How do you wet sand? Any links to a step-by-step?
I would recommend getting ssr 1,2.5, and 3 along with some natty's paste wax if you like paste wax. I use the edge 2000 with quick connector pads, easy to attach and the pads have 2 usable sides, You can get a starter kit for edge 2000 with the porter cable connector piece for around $75-85, come's with 1 of each pad you'll need.
If you need any more help feel free to im me.
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Here's some links to the products I listed and where to order them.
Edge 2000 pad kit for the PC 7424 http://www.autogeek.net/foam-polishing-kit.html
Pooerboy's SSR line http://www.autogeek.net/pbsr.html
PC 7424 www.coastaltool.com
Edge 2000 pad kit for the PC 7424 http://www.autogeek.net/foam-polishing-kit.html
Pooerboy's SSR line http://www.autogeek.net/pbsr.html
PC 7424 www.coastaltool.com
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Random Orbital Buffer...Which one to get and how?
We carry the Porter Cable 7336 and include the 6" velcro backing plate needed for the foam buffing pads. Priced at $119 and shipping of $7.95 anywhere in the lower 48 states. For other destinations, contact us for shipping costs. TX residents shall be charged 8.25% sales tax.
To complete your buffing kit, we stock foam buffing pads in orange(heavy cut), yellow (medium cut), and black( finishing pad). List for all three is $27.37. Sale price for the 3 pad kit is $24.63.
The backing plate($17.95) and pads also sold separately. Order the complete Tropi-Care Porter Cable buffing kit for $143.63 through steve@tropi-care.com(use promotion code SLPC 0905) and receive a package of 2 white microfiber polishing bonnets for wax and sealant removal FREE(a $5.99 value). This offer is not available online.
See these items and our complete product listing at www.tropi-care.com. For any questions, e-mail us at steve@tropi-care.com or call toll-free at (866)-341-0050.
To complete your buffing kit, we stock foam buffing pads in orange(heavy cut), yellow (medium cut), and black( finishing pad). List for all three is $27.37. Sale price for the 3 pad kit is $24.63.
The backing plate($17.95) and pads also sold separately. Order the complete Tropi-Care Porter Cable buffing kit for $143.63 through steve@tropi-care.com(use promotion code SLPC 0905) and receive a package of 2 white microfiber polishing bonnets for wax and sealant removal FREE(a $5.99 value). This offer is not available online.
See these items and our complete product listing at www.tropi-care.com. For any questions, e-mail us at steve@tropi-care.com or call toll-free at (866)-341-0050.
#9
I don't like velcro backing plate's anymore. Pads tend to tear around the velcro patch, centering isn't perfect, plus there's only 1 side to the pad, and you really can't use the edge's because of the backing plate. They're cheaper to start off with but I prefer edge 2000 because of their versatility, I use to use lake country pads.
#11
Originally Posted by jmiller20874
Got to thinking about this some more. What about the clearcoat surrounding the area, will it be damaged, need for a re-apply?
#13
Hate to resurrect, but I must get an answer!
All the posts here are in favor of the Porter Cable buffers...but don't explain why. Can someone shed some light on why I should spend $120 on a Porter buffer vs $70 for a Craftsman vs $20 for a Coleman?
All the posts here are in favor of the Porter Cable buffers...but don't explain why. Can someone shed some light on why I should spend $120 on a Porter buffer vs $70 for a Craftsman vs $20 for a Coleman?
#14
Originally Posted by Song0330
Hate to resurrect, but I must get an answer!
All the posts here are in favor of the Porter Cable buffers...but don't explain why. Can someone shed some light on why I should spend $120 on a Porter buffer vs $70 for a Craftsman vs $20 for a Coleman?
All the posts here are in favor of the Porter Cable buffers...but don't explain why. Can someone shed some light on why I should spend $120 on a Porter buffer vs $70 for a Craftsman vs $20 for a Coleman?
Gotta get either a PC7424, 7336 (same thing as 7424), or a new machine, called the UDM (ulitmate detailing machine) - although this one is so new you might have trouble getting your hands on it.
Anyway, all three machines are essentially the same thing, with the exception of the latter being an improved version of it.
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The Craftsmen orbital polisher actually does fall apart after a few uses. Some of the other more comparable polishers don't have adjustable speeds which is very important. Some don't have enough power and some vibrate a whole hell of a lot.
And then there are some that are perfectly good. These however are usually more expensive or just unproven.
I would go with the UDM. In fact, I already have one. It's basically a PC7424 but more powerful and steady (fewer vibrations.) It'll correct more than a PC but be just as safe. It's also been said (by the manufacturer so take this with a grain of salt) that at speed of 4 or 5, the UDM can have as much correctional ability as a rotary at 800 RPM.
The UDM costs about the same and comes with more than the PC, standard (but you can get a better deal than the UDM at properautocare.com if you get the package that's called "ultimate detailing machine" which is kind of confusing since that's what UDM stands for but it comes with a PC and several pads.) Also, the manufacturer, Autopia-carcare.com, has EXCELLENT customer service.
And then there are some that are perfectly good. These however are usually more expensive or just unproven.
I would go with the UDM. In fact, I already have one. It's basically a PC7424 but more powerful and steady (fewer vibrations.) It'll correct more than a PC but be just as safe. It's also been said (by the manufacturer so take this with a grain of salt) that at speed of 4 or 5, the UDM can have as much correctional ability as a rotary at 800 RPM.
The UDM costs about the same and comes with more than the PC, standard (but you can get a better deal than the UDM at properautocare.com if you get the package that's called "ultimate detailing machine" which is kind of confusing since that's what UDM stands for but it comes with a PC and several pads.) Also, the manufacturer, Autopia-carcare.com, has EXCELLENT customer service.
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I've actually been reading a few reviews about the UDM - it seems that there are issues with the vibrations being an issue. I may wait a couple of weeks until after Autopia starts shipping them tomorrow to read more reviews and make my decision between them.
(Although I will admit that since I can get a PC7424 for around $100 on eBay and it's already been proven...I'm more inclined to get that.)
(Although I will admit that since I can get a PC7424 for around $100 on eBay and it's already been proven...I'm more inclined to get that.)
#19
I have one!
The Griots Garage random orbital was based on the Porter Cable. We took everything we liked about the PC and made it better! THe PC is a great machine, we just took it a step farther.
First, we added extra holes in the ventillated backing plate in order to draw more heat off the surface of the paint and away from the machine. This will eliminate any chance of burning the paint at all. With our machine, you can burn paint period.
Also, we;ve added a ventillated cooling fan and exhaust to allow the heat we draw off the paint some where to go.
Our machine got an upgrade in power, going from the PC's 3.7 amps to our which has 7.0 This allows for more power and more torque letting you really bear down and let the machine do the work for you.
Other fringe benefits, ours comes with a lifetime warranty the PC comes with a 2 year, ours is a slight bit lighter, and ours has a handel on the top rather than the side allowing for better polishing action and better balance.
we sell ours for 129.99 and almost always have polish kits on sale to go with them. If you're in WA we have a store in Fife, but other can shoot me a PM and I can get you set up with informaton on how to order.
The Griots Garage random orbital was based on the Porter Cable. We took everything we liked about the PC and made it better! THe PC is a great machine, we just took it a step farther.
First, we added extra holes in the ventillated backing plate in order to draw more heat off the surface of the paint and away from the machine. This will eliminate any chance of burning the paint at all. With our machine, you can burn paint period.
Also, we;ve added a ventillated cooling fan and exhaust to allow the heat we draw off the paint some where to go.
Our machine got an upgrade in power, going from the PC's 3.7 amps to our which has 7.0 This allows for more power and more torque letting you really bear down and let the machine do the work for you.
Other fringe benefits, ours comes with a lifetime warranty the PC comes with a 2 year, ours is a slight bit lighter, and ours has a handel on the top rather than the side allowing for better polishing action and better balance.
we sell ours for 129.99 and almost always have polish kits on sale to go with them. If you're in WA we have a store in Fife, but other can shoot me a PM and I can get you set up with informaton on how to order.
#20
Originally Posted by Song0330
I've actually been reading a few reviews about the UDM - it seems that there are issues with the vibrations being an issue. I may wait a couple of weeks until after Autopia starts shipping them tomorrow to read more reviews and make my decision between them.
(Although I will admit that since I can get a PC7424 for around $100 on eBay and it's already been proven...I'm more inclined to get that.)
(Although I will admit that since I can get a PC7424 for around $100 on eBay and it's already been proven...I'm more inclined to get that.)
The Griot's garage one seems to be even more powerful with 7 amps (versus the UDM's 4.2 amps) but like I said, I couldn't max out the UDM's motor so I don't think I'd ever think about needing 7 amps worth of polishing. However, with 7000 OPM available you might not even need to weigh it down. It also starts at 4000 OPM so it's technically less versatile but I usually start at 3000 OPM anyways.
Also, if you want a Griot's Garage polisher, you can cut out the middle man and get a Mosay MS8811B
It's the same thing except has the rotary style handle.
Edit: I've found this link to a review on the GG's polisher. Apparently they found the GG to be less aggressive than the PC. Huh.
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/fo...t=10915&page=5