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Old 03-11-2006 | 06:27 AM
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I was wondering when i can change from reg oil to synthetic oil? I heard u have to drive with reg for awhile till u can change it.
Old 03-11-2006 | 11:26 AM
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how many miles u got on it now?? i started using synthetic at about 5k
Old 03-11-2006 | 05:56 PM
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i have heard roughly 2-3 reg oil changes... to seat all the rings and get all the gaskets nice.
Old 03-11-2006 | 10:37 PM
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I waited 1000 miles and then switched. I had a brand new engine in my civic I only waited 500 miles with it and never had any issues I had 40,000 on the engine when I got rid of it.
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Anybody have any solid advice for this? I would also like to know, because im coming up on 3000 miles, my first oil change is soon. Im going to go with Mobile One, but im just not sure when is the best time to switch?
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i switched at 4000 and went with mobile 1
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the dealership i work for recommends 2-3 oil changes... like i said above
Old 03-12-2006 | 03:01 AM
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OK, take this for what it's worth.
29 years of driving/riding.
29 years of reading on the subject.
29 years of experience.

I break-in my cars by changing oil/filter at 1k miles with dino oil and OEM filter.
I change again at 3k miles, dino oil, OEM filter.
At 5k miles, switch to Mobil1 (others love German Castrol Green and Amsoil, but I haven't used those) and OEM filter.

I repeat every 3k miles thereafter. I likely won't ever use my free SCION changes, but that's OK.

*Honda uses a special break-in oil that others don't - you should follow Honda's recommended OCI for that first.

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I got about two thousand miles on it. I heard if u change it to soon the car will leak it.
Old 03-12-2006 | 03:41 AM
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slboettcher u sound about right i heard that some where before thanks for all the info guys appreciate it!!!!!!
Old 03-12-2006 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scion06_tc
I got about two thousand miles on it. I heard if u change it to soon the car will leak it.
It's not changing it too soon, it's more of an issue changing to synthetic too soon. Synth will keep parts from seating properly if used too early on. You NEED wear to make an engine break-in right and it will have issues if it's not done properly.

Some believe that most engines break-in within a few miles of use. I'm not going to go to that extreme as erring on the side of caution is safer.

Running a new engine on clean dino for an extra few k miles won't do any harm whatsoever.

Just use good quality parts and stick to a regular schedule. The cool thing about the tC is you can make your "check engine light" (change oil) in 5,4,3,2 or 1k increments. Mine's set to 3k.

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I changed my tC over to full synthetic at about 500 miles and havent had any problems. I've got about 9,500 on it now.
Old 03-12-2006 | 01:10 PM
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I'd do it at 10 000 km (6213 mi) with Mobil 1. Mobil 1 is what Mercedes-Benz uses and probably is good. I think that if an oil meets 229.5 MB Spec, it should be good.
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just changed mine over to mobil 1 today had about 4k miles before i changed. i noticed immediately the engine is much smoother and pulls a little harder too?
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Originally Posted by Spiderbox
just changed mine over to mobil 1 today had about 4k miles before i changed. i noticed immediately the engine is much smoother and pulls a little harder too?
It's usually wishful thinking, but rest assured, M1 is a great oil.
Your tC will be happy for years to come.
What oil filter did you use?

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PS - my car is ALWAYS faster after I detail it
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the dealer did the oil change so i guess they used the toyota oem filter

i have an xb btw
Old 03-15-2006 | 01:23 AM
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Sorry, xB. Won't matter. All good.
Old 03-15-2006 | 01:29 AM
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bah... my g/f had over 400,000 miles on her camry when she sold it. It still ran like a champ. Believe me- it wasn't changed every 3,000 and it sure as hell didn't EVER get synthetic. I just use regular Mobil 5000 formula and OEM filters on my tC, but even that is overkill imo. It's a Toyota!! It sure won't hurt to put in synth, but i don't think it's necessary.
Old 03-21-2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by slboettcher
... changing to synthetic too soon. Synth will keep parts from seating properly if used too early on....
A friend took me for a ride in his new Mini and said came with synthetic in it and the dealer uses synthetic. If found this in a Mini forum:
"The Mini comes from the factory equipped with Castrol Synthetic motor oil and that or Mobil 1 is suggested by Mini for oil changes."
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...vndaS@.ef22f7e

I took delivery of my xB last week and told the Service Manager that I planned to change to Mobil 1 after the free oil changes. He was against it. He said a customer's xB had started using oil with Mobil 1, but stopped when they changed back to petroleum oil. Who knows what really was happening.

I was an Amsoil dealer back in the 1980s, and so I like synthetic. It reduces friction and so gives a little more hp and mpg. But even though synthetic oil itself is indestructible, it gets dirty like any oil. My Scion dealer's and my preference is for 3,000 oil changes, and at that interval, petroleum oil is more cost effective.
The drain interval of synthetic oil depends on the filter. The interval with a standard filter should be the same as petroleum oil. For a longer interval, use a $10 Mobil 1 or K&N filter which have more media area and finer filtration.

If I do go to Mobil 1, I wll use their filters and change at 5,000 miles.
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All engines are not created equal. Honda, for example, uses a special break-in oil.
Some car makers now use Synthetic from the start - but they likely have designed and prepped them differently than the standard Toyota 4-banger.

There are stories all over of people having leaks or odd experiences with this or that oil. Having read a lot, I think they are anomalies.

If you get into hi-mileage engines, then you do need to be careful changing from one type of oil to another, but that's not apropos here.

As for filters, research isn't showing M1 filters as being any better than an OEM filter. Toyota makes great filters.

Scott


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