Charlie Sheen on CNN
03-23-2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
You're right. We do have video. We have video of the planes crashing into the twin towers.
"But once you’ve rotated, climbed out, and reached cruising altitude in a simulator (or real airplane), and find yourself en route to some distant destination (using sophisticated electronic navigation techniques), the situation changes drastically: the pilot loses virtually all external visual reference cues, and is left entirely at the mercy of an array of complex flight and navigation instruments to provide situational cues (altitude, heading, speed, attitude, etc.)
In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well. When flying “blind”, I.e., with no ground reference cues, it takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret, and then apply, this data intelligently. If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.
And IFR Rule #1: Never take your eyes off your instruments, because that’s all you have!"
In the case of a Boeing 757 or 767, the pilot would be faced with an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of assorted “hard” instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well. When flying “blind”, I.e., with no ground reference cues, it takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret, and then apply, this data intelligently. If one cannot translate this information quickly, precisely and accurately (and it takes an instrument-rated pilot to do so), one would have ZERO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. I.e., the pilot wouldn’t have a clue where s/he was in relation to the earth. Flight under such conditions is referred to as “IFR”, or Instrument Flight Rules.
And IFR Rule #1: Never take your eyes off your instruments, because that’s all you have!"
03-23-2006 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by slboettcher
I will ask my brother about the article on flying - he's a "heavy" pilot.
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That would be awesome, thanks! Find out about the telemetry ability for a Cessna trained pilot and how they pulled off the pentagon maneuver.
03-23-2006 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeydog001
You Nitwits on the left are truely anazing. 
Let us know when they interview Mr. Ed.! 
Let us know when they interview Mr. Ed.!
03-23-2006 | 08:10 PM
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You also have to remember that the science used to "recreate" how things happened is often times based on speculation, and it calculates everything else as a given. I'll give you an example (bare with me, it's kinda long).
Remember when Mount St. Helen erupted? The lake on that mountain was Spirit Lake. When the eruption occured, the basin to Spirit lake was blown away causing millions of gallons of water to flow crashing down the mountainside. In it's path, it cut a huge gorge and washed thousands of trees into the flow. When the water settled near the bottom, it created a new lake with trees floating in it. After a few weeks, the root base to the trees got water logged and the trees started to float upright (vertical) in the water. After a few more weeks, they sank to the bottom of the new lake. As they we sitting upright on the bottom of the lake, tons of dirt and ash were sinking at the same time. The dirt eventually filled in all around those trees and burried them at the bottom. Now, here's the cool part. Archeologist have already admitted that if they didn't know what had happend there and they just happend to wonder upon that area, based on all currently accepted methods of science, they would conclude that it took millions of years to create what they were looking at! It would look like a gorge that was cut out by a slow stream over a long time. It would also look like there was a forest burried millions of years ago at a place that no forrest ever existed. All of what occured there happend in a matter of months...not millions of years.
Moral of the story? The accepted science isn't always correct. They have the video of Spirit Lake to prove it.
Remember when Mount St. Helen erupted? The lake on that mountain was Spirit Lake. When the eruption occured, the basin to Spirit lake was blown away causing millions of gallons of water to flow crashing down the mountainside. In it's path, it cut a huge gorge and washed thousands of trees into the flow. When the water settled near the bottom, it created a new lake with trees floating in it. After a few weeks, the root base to the trees got water logged and the trees started to float upright (vertical) in the water. After a few more weeks, they sank to the bottom of the new lake. As they we sitting upright on the bottom of the lake, tons of dirt and ash were sinking at the same time. The dirt eventually filled in all around those trees and burried them at the bottom. Now, here's the cool part. Archeologist have already admitted that if they didn't know what had happend there and they just happend to wonder upon that area, based on all currently accepted methods of science, they would conclude that it took millions of years to create what they were looking at! It would look like a gorge that was cut out by a slow stream over a long time. It would also look like there was a forest burried millions of years ago at a place that no forrest ever existed. All of what occured there happend in a matter of months...not millions of years.
Moral of the story? The accepted science isn't always correct. They have the video of Spirit Lake to prove it.
03-23-2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
You're right. We do have video. We have video of the planes crashing into the twin towers. We have the hard disc replay of the radar that tracked the planes from BWI to the towers. We have the surviving families of the passangers who were on those planes. Yes, we do have a lot of information.
I urge everyone to look at the collapses again.
03-23-2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
You also have to remember that the science used to "recreate" how things happened is often times based on speculation, and it calculates everything else as a given. I'll give you an example (bare with me, it's kinda long).
Remember when Mount St. Helen erupted? The lake on that mountain was Spirit Lake. When the eruption occured, the basin to Spirit lake was blown away causing millions of gallons of water to flow crashing down the mountainside. In it's path, it cut a huge gorge and washed thousands of trees into the flow. When the water settled near the bottom, it created a new lake with trees floating in it. After a few weeks, the root base to the trees got water logged and the trees started to float upright (vertical) in the water. After a few more weeks, they sank to the bottom of the new lake. As they we sitting upright on the bottom of the lake, tons of dirt and ash were sinking at the same time. The dirt eventually filled in all around those trees and burried them at the bottom. Now, here's the cool part. Archeologist have already admitted that if they didn't know what had happend there and they just happend to wonder upon that area, based on all currently accepted methods of science, they would conclude that it took millions of years to create what they were looking at! It would look like a gorge that was cut out by a slow stream over a long time. It would also look like there was a forest burried millions of years ago at a place that no forrest ever existed. All of what occured there happend in a matter of months...not millions of years.
Moral of the story? The accepted science isn't always correct. They have the video of Spirit Lake to prove it.
Remember when Mount St. Helen erupted? The lake on that mountain was Spirit Lake. When the eruption occured, the basin to Spirit lake was blown away causing millions of gallons of water to flow crashing down the mountainside. In it's path, it cut a huge gorge and washed thousands of trees into the flow. When the water settled near the bottom, it created a new lake with trees floating in it. After a few weeks, the root base to the trees got water logged and the trees started to float upright (vertical) in the water. After a few more weeks, they sank to the bottom of the new lake. As they we sitting upright on the bottom of the lake, tons of dirt and ash were sinking at the same time. The dirt eventually filled in all around those trees and burried them at the bottom. Now, here's the cool part. Archeologist have already admitted that if they didn't know what had happend there and they just happend to wonder upon that area, based on all currently accepted methods of science, they would conclude that it took millions of years to create what they were looking at! It would look like a gorge that was cut out by a slow stream over a long time. It would also look like there was a forest burried millions of years ago at a place that no forrest ever existed. All of what occured there happend in a matter of months...not millions of years.
Moral of the story? The accepted science isn't always correct. They have the video of Spirit Lake to prove it.
Seperately, I think it may be that the 911 story the govt has is flawed.. perhaps something on approach vector, perhaps something they dont know on what really went down on the planes, or perhaps what these other people are saying is true and there is something being covered up. Either way, there needs to be full disclosure.
03-23-2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Along with video of the actual collapse of all three towers.
I urge everyone to look at the collapses again.
I urge everyone to look at the collapses again.
03-23-2006 | 08:25 PM
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Why would we purposely kill thousands of Americans? To help Bush's ratings? That really worked didn't it 
I love how you liberals get mad at conservatives and think they're so foolish. Think of what you're saying guys, it makes no sense. As soon as somebody can prove me wrong about this besides some stupid teenager on google with a video or CHARLIE SHEEN, lol, I'll eat my words. Just because Mel Gibson's theories were true I hate to tell you guys this but you're not Mel Gibson Now before you go ranting about how I'm such a Bush lover or such a Republican I'll tell you this. I was a hardcore Republican and I supported Bush but I can say that I'm tired of him and I'm ready for a new president, I don't care who it is I'm just ready for someone that just knows how to open a door much less lead this nation. I'm no longer even a Republican because of him I'm in the middle and just want whoever will do the best job. Sorry for the rant, I'm done now.
That really worked didn't it I love how you liberals get mad at conservatives and think they're so foolish. Think of what you're saying guys, it makes no sense. As soon as somebody can prove me wrong about this besides some stupid teenager on google with a video or CHARLIE SHEEN, lol, I'll eat my words. Just because Mel Gibson's theories were true I hate to tell you guys this but you're not Mel Gibson Now before you go ranting about how I'm such a Bush lover or such a Republican I'll tell you this. I was a hardcore Republican and I supported Bush but I can say that I'm tired of him and I'm ready for a new president, I don't care who it is I'm just ready for someone that just knows how to open a door much less lead this nation. I'm no longer even a Republican because of him I'm in the middle and just want whoever will do the best job. Sorry for the rant, I'm done now.
03-23-2006 | 08:28 PM
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That "physics 911" site has a few facts wrong. The plane that crashed into the pentagon was flying hundreds of feet up, not 20 feet off the ground. It wasn't 20 feet off the ground until basically the moment of impact.
And I have seen a 747 fly 200 feet off the ground, landing gear up, at 400 knots with my own eyes, it is possible. It was at the EAA Airshow in 1989, a Quantas 747-300 to be exact.
If the terrorists knew the latitude and longitude of their target, all they would have to do is plug those into the GPS navigation system. It would not be that tough.
And I have seen a 747 fly 200 feet off the ground, landing gear up, at 400 knots with my own eyes, it is possible. It was at the EAA Airshow in 1989, a Quantas 747-300 to be exact.
If the terrorists knew the latitude and longitude of their target, all they would have to do is plug those into the GPS navigation system. It would not be that tough.
03-23-2006 | 08:30 PM
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Look, I'm not saying believe everything that these theories say, cause I sure don't. I'm just suggesting that people listen to what these scientists, scholors, and others are saying. Forget the politics and investigate the facts presented.
03-23-2006 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_a
I have...many times. Wanna know whatI don't see? All of the initial detonations on each floor that occur just before a building comes down with explosives.
03-23-2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mfbenson
That "physics 911" site has a few facts wrong. The plane that crashed into the pentagon was flying hundreds of feet up, not 20 feet off the ground. It wasn't 20 feet off the ground until basically the moment of impact.
03-23-2006 | 08:38 PM
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03-23-2006 | 08:41 PM
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Ok, I'm sorry but that has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard....EVER! It was a terrorist attack NOT ALIENS!!!!! Charlie Sheen is a moron, if you need proof he look no farther on him messing up his marriage to Denise Richards. Seriously you have to be an idiot to mess up that. As far as him saying that Bush was so calm about the attack when he heard I have two things to say, first he was in a room full of fourth graders and second at that time only one tower was hit and nobody really suspected it was in attack it was believed to be an accident it wasn't until the second plane hit that people really realized what was going on. I seriously thought that all the rehab worked on Charlie Sheen but nope he's back on the drugs again.
I am not saying that certain questions don't need to be asked about 9-11, we may not really know the whole truth. At the same time though that could be a good a thing. I believe that we as civilians do not need to know absolutly everything that has to do with National Security. And for the record I watched the video of the second plane crash into the tower and it looked like every plane I've ever been on. Seems to me that Charlie Sheen has never flew American Airlines.
I am not saying that certain questions don't need to be asked about 9-11, we may not really know the whole truth. At the same time though that could be a good a thing. I believe that we as civilians do not need to know absolutly everything that has to do with National Security. And for the record I watched the video of the second plane crash into the tower and it looked like every plane I've ever been on. Seems to me that Charlie Sheen has never flew American Airlines.