Death Penalty
#241
Originally Posted by BigMURR
As for rape victims is there a statistic that shows the amount of women who have gotten pregnant through rape and or it lasting through the pregnancy?
Few women report abuse, let alone rapes
#242
You guys crack me up. The verse you are looking for is genesis 9:6. I have read the bible a few times and I laugh my *ss off when you guys stumble around trying to tell me what you believe. Don't ever accuse me of just using soundbites when that is all you use yourself.
#244
Originally Posted by tC4italy
Originally Posted by BigMURR
As for rape victims is there a statistic that shows the amount of women who have gotten pregnant through rape and or it lasting through the pregnancy?
Few women report abuse, let alone rapes
#245
Originally Posted by citizen01
You guys crack me up. The verse you are looking for is genesis 9:6. I have read the bible a few times and I laugh my *ss off when you guys stumble around trying to tell me what you believe. Don't ever accuse me of just using soundbites when that is all you use yourself.
#246
matt,
yeah that was harsh. Truly sorry. It was in response to secretangent monkey saying people like dave and citizen. The stumbling comment was a result of nobody just saying "look at genesis 9:6". Again, that came off more hostile than I meant it.
yeah that was harsh. Truly sorry. It was in response to secretangent monkey saying people like dave and citizen. The stumbling comment was a result of nobody just saying "look at genesis 9:6". Again, that came off more hostile than I meant it.
#247
Originally Posted by citizen01
Oh and since genesis is old testament all it proves is that christians pick and choose what they want to believe. They toss animal sacrifices but not other barbaric practices. It's hillarious.
Hmm...interesting...you don't think Christians should use the Old Testament in arguments? It's still part of our Bible. It's still the foundation for Jesus' teachings. He believed what the Old Testament said. He did change things. But He didn't say capital punishment was suddenly wrong. One of his closest disciples, however, defined what was acceptable capital punishment.
You're right, we don't do animal sacrifices anymore. But that was because of Jesus. The animal sacrifices were done in ancient times to please God. But Jesus took the place of that. We now please God through Him. So I'm not tossing away animal sacrifices, I just don't need them anymore.
#249
The prison's are overcrowded. People are arrested and thrown in jail for extended periods of time for actions that weren't as much of an issue years ago. ( Or were but the laws have changed. )
Sending everyone who commits a crime to prison, is bogus. Now I am not saying that we should just slap them on the wrist and tell them to be on their way, but crimes that warranted a couple of months in the past have now turned in to multiple years. Hence overcrowding.
Now for those on death row, get rid of them. They are taking up space that could be used for others. Those with recurring life sentences, with no chance of parole, get rid of them too. What's the point in making them suffer for their crimes when they are only going to die in prison anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, if you killed someone than you deserve to be killed yourself.
Sending everyone who commits a crime to prison, is bogus. Now I am not saying that we should just slap them on the wrist and tell them to be on their way, but crimes that warranted a couple of months in the past have now turned in to multiple years. Hence overcrowding.
Now for those on death row, get rid of them. They are taking up space that could be used for others. Those with recurring life sentences, with no chance of parole, get rid of them too. What's the point in making them suffer for their crimes when they are only going to die in prison anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, if you killed someone than you deserve to be killed yourself.
#250
Originally Posted by citizen01
matt,
yeah that was harsh. Truly sorry. It was in response to secretangent monkey saying people like dave and citizen. The stumbling comment was a result of nobody just saying "look at genesis 9:6". Again, that came off more hostile than I meant it.
yeah that was harsh. Truly sorry. It was in response to secretangent monkey saying people like dave and citizen. The stumbling comment was a result of nobody just saying "look at genesis 9:6". Again, that came off more hostile than I meant it.
I didn't bring up the exact Genesis quote because I wanted to show people the New Testament said something about it too. Because there seems to be even more hostility to the Old Testament here. So I'll use the teachings of Jesus or his disciples to make my case. (though I did bring up the OT in a previous post to further my arguement).
#251
The reason the Bible doesn't specifically say "abortion is wrong" is because it wasn't common (almost non-existent) at the time. So there was no frame of reference.
However, what you say fit's more in tune to the notion that the Bible was written by man, of what he thought God would have wanted.
#252
Alright. To answer the question of the thread.
I believe capital punishment is acceptable as punishment to murder. And for those who brought religion into it. I also believe God sanctions governments to execute criminals for this purpose.
I believe capital punishment is acceptable as punishment to murder. And for those who brought religion into it. I also believe God sanctions governments to execute criminals for this purpose.
#253
Originally Posted by dCvingtC
What's the point in making them suffer for their crimes when they are only going to die in prison anyway.
huh? that's kind of confusing...
That IS the entire point; to make them suffer.
What better way to do that than let them rot to death and have nothing to look forward to in their lives?
#254
Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
The reason the Bible doesn't specifically say "abortion is wrong" is because it wasn't common (almost non-existent) at the time. So there was no frame of reference.
However, what you say fit's more in tune to the notion that the Bible was written by man, of what he thought God would have wanted.
#256
Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
The reason the Bible doesn't specifically say "abortion is wrong" is because it wasn't common (almost non-existent) at the time. So there was no frame of reference.
However, what you say fit's more in tune to the notion that the Bible was written by man, of what he thought God would have wanted.
To me, you're argument here is like someone saying "don't set foot in my house" so you come in walking on your knees. Afterall, they didn't say "don't set knee in my house."
#258
Originally Posted by citizen01
Depending on how you are definning murder and also what the person is innocent of.
For example can you put a guilty burglar to death?... See?
For example can you put a guilty burglar to death?... See?
#260
We are making them suffer...yes. But if they are going to sit there until they die, then just get rid of them.
Our tax dollars go to keeping these filthy scum around so that they can think about what they did. Some regret it ( or so they do ), some don't care.
The prisons should be saved for those that are getting the reform and may have a chance to try a new existance after prison, although the statistics aren't in their favor.
Our tax dollars go to keeping these filthy scum around so that they can think about what they did. Some regret it ( or so they do ), some don't care.
The prisons should be saved for those that are getting the reform and may have a chance to try a new existance after prison, although the statistics aren't in their favor.