Discussion of TCpete. SETTLED. ADVISE FIRST POST
#81
This site has become ridiculous. Too many mods on power trips. God forbid someone questions them!
I've known Pete for a long time and he has always been a cool azz person. He's always been the one to always offer a hand. Personally if I was him I would probably not even want to come back to this site after being booted. Too many damm sensitive babies! LOL ok back on topic FREE TCPETE!
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
I've known Pete for a long time and he has always been a cool azz person. He's always been the one to always offer a hand. Personally if I was him I would probably not even want to come back to this site after being booted. Too many damm sensitive babies! LOL ok back on topic FREE TCPETE!
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
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racersky posted after me...but copied the list before mine...
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
#83
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
35.) s2
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
35.) s2
#84
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
35.) s2
36.) D1G1T4L
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
31.5) Racersky
32.) FlintmicatC
33.) Infinitevisi0n
34.) Ricantc
35.) s2
36.) D1G1T4L
#85
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
Figure id add my name
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
Figure id add my name
#86
OMG.
ok, i have a few things to do before i can get this list. almost everyone will get a PM for this. ill have the complete list ready in about an hour
ok, i have a few things to do before i can get this list. almost everyone will get a PM for this. ill have the complete list ready in about an hour
#88
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
39.) bBlover
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
39.) bBlover
#89
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
ive already PMed a bunch of ppl, this is taking off way more than i thought it would.
ill hit u up on AIM tonight to discuss further plans.
ill hit u up on AIM tonight to discuss further plans.
#90
OK, folks, let me toss in a couple of thoughts here...
I'll be first to agree that Pete is a good guy, knows his stuff, helps a lot of people, and has a lot of friends.
He also doesn't like rules.
Pete has broken the rules he promised to follow at least three times, badly enough to get a warning - each time from a different SuperMod.
Each time he was warned, the infraction was explained and he was warned to read and follow the rules he agreed to or he could be banned.
After the third time of breaking his promise to follow the rules, a group of SuperMods reached a consensus that Pete was not following the rules, and by past performance would continue to not follow the rules.
One reason people are banned is that they have demonstrated that no matter how much we plead with them to follow the rules they agreed to, no matter how many times they are given an opportunity to play well with others on the site, no matter how many times they promise to follow the rules, they don't.
To that I have to ask you, Pete, why should we believe you THIS time? What makes this time different from the other times? Why should we think that you've suddenly seen the light and will become the perfect forum member when you haven't before?
Why won't the very same sort of thing happen again?
During the time I've been a SuperMod here on ScionLife.com I've brought back from the Ban Bin several different members. Most of the time I've come to regret that no matter how much I wanted it to succeed.
It usually goes well for a while, then the member goes right back to the same sort of actions that got them kicked out before.
That not only makes me feel bad, but makes me look bad because I stuck my neck out, put up my rep, by bringing them back.
So, I ask once again, why should I believe all will be well THIS time?
(We miss you, Pete, but you just wouldn't learn.)
Tom
I'll be first to agree that Pete is a good guy, knows his stuff, helps a lot of people, and has a lot of friends.
He also doesn't like rules.
Pete has broken the rules he promised to follow at least three times, badly enough to get a warning - each time from a different SuperMod.
Each time he was warned, the infraction was explained and he was warned to read and follow the rules he agreed to or he could be banned.
After the third time of breaking his promise to follow the rules, a group of SuperMods reached a consensus that Pete was not following the rules, and by past performance would continue to not follow the rules.
One reason people are banned is that they have demonstrated that no matter how much we plead with them to follow the rules they agreed to, no matter how many times they are given an opportunity to play well with others on the site, no matter how many times they promise to follow the rules, they don't.
Originally Posted by TCpete
i would sincerely like to thank everyone for their support and positive help on this thread. I never realized how much of good crowd is on here and how much ppl cared.. especially about a jerky hard butt chum like me. Yes i did wrong to some extent but if put back like i asked hoodie to post. "tcpete will keep it clean".. ill also promise to help as much as i can all my supporters in w.e ?s' and ventures they embark on with their scion as its the least that i can do in return for such positive feed back from my peers...and ill help the noobs also..(cross my fingers hehe)... please keep this thread on topic as much as possible to demonstrate that everyone is following the rules so this thread remains untouched. I sincerely thank those who support me wether i have done nothing to help you or for those who i have been breaking my neck through PMs to help also...
thanks ALL of you...
thanks ALL of you...
Why won't the very same sort of thing happen again?
During the time I've been a SuperMod here on ScionLife.com I've brought back from the Ban Bin several different members. Most of the time I've come to regret that no matter how much I wanted it to succeed.
It usually goes well for a while, then the member goes right back to the same sort of actions that got them kicked out before.
That not only makes me feel bad, but makes me look bad because I stuck my neck out, put up my rep, by bringing them back.
So, I ask once again, why should I believe all will be well THIS time?
(We miss you, Pete, but you just wouldn't learn.)
Tom
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wasnt coryjames brought back from the ban bin and succesfully assimilated back into the world of SL?
pete has said that if he is allowe to come back that he would cause no trouble and if trouble does arise he has agreed to let the mods ban him again with no outbreak.
i cannot speak on the behalf of pete in saying that he wont ever act out again (although hes told me he wont)
but if he is allowed to come back and acts out and is banned, now everyone will know that he is on his FOURTH strike and that he deserves a ban and no other threads of this sort or any kind of support will be there for him.
pete has said that if he is allowe to come back that he would cause no trouble and if trouble does arise he has agreed to let the mods ban him again with no outbreak.
i cannot speak on the behalf of pete in saying that he wont ever act out again (although hes told me he wont)
but if he is allowed to come back and acts out and is banned, now everyone will know that he is on his FOURTH strike and that he deserves a ban and no other threads of this sort or any kind of support will be there for him.
#93
1.) yellowxhoodie
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
39.) bBlover
40.) 2006bluetc
2.) Elijahtc
3.) STNC
4.) rosedaleny806
5.) smilezdc
6.) BigJD
7.) brett561tc
8.)NYNCTC
9.)ippskidder
10.) kiss_kiss_kill
11.) ace83
12.) SoFloTC
13.) m6ar2cel6oTC
14.) caveman
15.) Ro_Ja
16.) BlkTC
17.)Cavalierkid888
18.)a_german_named_hans
19.) Checho10
20.)teamben158
21.)ScionizedRide
22.)DerK
23.)java09
24.)superwhitetc20
25.) jsingh
26.) toeveryhour
27.) bdis3
28.) Crayola_G
29.) xSTANDxSTRONGx, Brian
30.) aroddalobster
31.) DonNguyen
32.) Racersky
33.) FlintmicatC
34.) Infinitevisi0n
35.) Ricantc
36.) s2
37.) D1G1T4L
38.)Crippie
39.) bBlover
40.) 2006bluetc
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"but if he is allowed to come back and acts out and is banned, now everyone will know that he is on his FOURTH strike and that he deserves a ban and no other threads of this sort or any kind of support will be there for him."
Let him back in...and if he mucks up again, muck him, ban his asp for good
Let him back in...and if he mucks up again, muck him, ban his asp for good
#96
With Cory James not only did HE promise to be very careful, his friends also jumped in there by not just pleading that he be allowed back into the fold, but also took up the job of watching out for him, and making sure if he did something out-of-line that it was "handled" before a SuperMod could see it and react.
So far it has worked, but it hasn't really been all that long.
I hope it continues to work.
(You need to understand that SuperMods and Admins really don't like to ban people - it causes all sorts of disruption with friends getting all upset and raising Hell with all sorts of garbage in their signatures - in fact, that was another requirement for bringing Cory James back - he wouldn't be brought back until all the crap disappeared from all the sigs. What Mods, SuperMods, and Admins do like, though is for members to follow the rules. That means we can do the helpful stuff like moving threads for people and cleaning up the spills in Aisle 3... We only ban folks when they get to the point of causing us too much extra work.)
One thing something like this DOES accomplish is it gets the attention of a lot of people and helps them to understand that we all need to work together to get something accomplished.
One question I've never been able to answer, though, is why do people continue to break the same damned rules after being warned?
So far it has worked, but it hasn't really been all that long.
I hope it continues to work.
(You need to understand that SuperMods and Admins really don't like to ban people - it causes all sorts of disruption with friends getting all upset and raising Hell with all sorts of garbage in their signatures - in fact, that was another requirement for bringing Cory James back - he wouldn't be brought back until all the crap disappeared from all the sigs. What Mods, SuperMods, and Admins do like, though is for members to follow the rules. That means we can do the helpful stuff like moving threads for people and cleaning up the spills in Aisle 3... We only ban folks when they get to the point of causing us too much extra work.)
One thing something like this DOES accomplish is it gets the attention of a lot of people and helps them to understand that we all need to work together to get something accomplished.
One question I've never been able to answer, though, is why do people continue to break the same damned rules after being warned?
#97
^^ i can agree with that, if he doesnt do as promised, i can see why banning would be implimented. As for Tomas sticking his neck out, i understand where hes coming from, but again, if allowed in, and if he messes up again, I believe this will not reflect on Tomas or the other mods. This would soley reflect on the behavior of TCpete. I also believe the difference this time from other times was that he was "actually" banned as opposed to just warned... sometimes thats enought to change a person. As a good friend of his, i can see that he would be willing to change. If he goes back to his old ways and warrents a ban, then it would be deserving.
my two cents
my two cents
#98
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
oh great.
another name lock.
if ONE MORE PERSON is banned im quitting
another name lock.
if ONE MORE PERSON is banned im quitting
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Originally Posted by Tomas
With Cory James not only did HE promise to be very careful, his friends also jumped in there by not just pleading that he be allowed back into the fold, but also took up the job of watching out for him, and making sure if he did something out-of-line that it was "handled" before a SuperMod could see it and react.
So far it has worked, but it hasn't really been all that long.
I hope it continues to work.
(You need to understand that SuperMods and Admins really don't like to ban people - it causes all sorts of disruption with friends getting all upset and raising Hell with all sorts of garbage in their signatures - in fact, that was another requirement for bringing Cory James back - he wouldn't be brought back until all the crap disappeared from all the sigs. What Mods, SuperMods, and Admins do like, though is for members to follow the rules. That means we can do the helpful stuff like moving threads for people and cleaning up the spills in Aisle 3... We only ban folks when they get to the point of causing us too much extra work.)
One thing something like this DOES accomplish is it gets the attention of a lot of people and helps them to understand that we all need to work together to get something accomplished.
One question I've never been able to answer, though, is why do people continue to break the same damned rules after being warned?
So far it has worked, but it hasn't really been all that long.
I hope it continues to work.
(You need to understand that SuperMods and Admins really don't like to ban people - it causes all sorts of disruption with friends getting all upset and raising Hell with all sorts of garbage in their signatures - in fact, that was another requirement for bringing Cory James back - he wouldn't be brought back until all the crap disappeared from all the sigs. What Mods, SuperMods, and Admins do like, though is for members to follow the rules. That means we can do the helpful stuff like moving threads for people and cleaning up the spills in Aisle 3... We only ban folks when they get to the point of causing us too much extra work.)
One thing something like this DOES accomplish is it gets the attention of a lot of people and helps them to understand that we all need to work together to get something accomplished.
One question I've never been able to answer, though, is why do people continue to break the same damned rules after being warned?
why not Pete!?
the circumstances seem to be almost entirely the same in both situations.
pete's no dummy, he knows he can be banned again with the click of a finger and im sure that many ppl here are willing to "watch out for him" (myself included)