Multiple Tint Violation tickets..
#81
Originally Posted by SciontCya
And one last point here. I have two very beautiful daughters who have cars with 15% ALL AROUND. They have been pulled over five times between them.
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
#83
Originally Posted by SciontCya
Um, you should think before posting.
REAR WINDOW TINT IS LEGAL.
So, please think before you ruin the thread.
#84
Originally Posted by Shaka_Z
It just seems to me that many of these types of tickets are arbitrarily decided for the sole purpose of generating revenue from the taxpayers in such a way that it shifts accountability away from the lawmakers. they really aren't made with public safety - or officer safety - in mind. and yes, it is possible to pick and choose the laws... it's called VOTING for candidates who see things YOUR way.
#85
Originally Posted by Aik
Originally Posted by SciontCya
And one last point here. I have two very beautiful daughters who have cars with 15% ALL AROUND. They have been pulled over five times between them.
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
So, when anyone tells me it's a "safety issue" or for the "cop's safety" I say, yeah, right.
#86
Originally Posted by SciontCya
Originally Posted by Aik
Originally Posted by SciontCya
And one last point here. I have two very beautiful daughters who have cars with 15% ALL AROUND. They have been pulled over five times between them.
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
Anyone wanna guess how many tickets they have received?
Step on up!
So, when anyone tells me it's a "safety issue" or for the "cop's safety" I say, yeah, right.
Or the real universal truth: Women, especially good looking women, have a knack for talking their way out of tickets unless the cop is a woman, ___, or in a REALLY bad mood. YELOSUB probably won't publicly admit it, but that's one police stereotype that rings true across the world; don't bother disputing it, I've seen my Mom, Sister, and ex-girl-friends do it, and I'm sure your daughters talked their way out of those tickets as well.
Of course anyone, whether you're a man or a woman, can talk your way out of a ticket as long as you are respectful and don't give attitude to the officer. Judging from the responses here, f**ked up attitudes is the reason many of you are regular contributors to the courthouse.
#87
Now now now - I have law enforcement folks as friends and in my family, and I can say with 100% attach-my-fingers-to-a-lie-detector certainty that I am the most polite and respectful guy when pulled over, which has been three times in 31 years of driving/riding.
Sorry, you know by my posts on this that I take the responsibility, but it's a bogus law, and to say it's enforced "randomly" is an UNDERSTATEMENT.
I do feel they target certain car types - why else would I get nailed on the night I specified?
That cop picked my car out at night, while letting tons of cars with 5% drive right by him.
In case you haven't heard/seen/read, SoCal is a place where "ricers" and street racers are being targeted for modded cars due to racing/crashing and killing people.
I know I got hit 'cause I drive a car that looks like the offender's cars do.
If I only had a nice set of....
Sorry, you know by my posts on this that I take the responsibility, but it's a bogus law, and to say it's enforced "randomly" is an UNDERSTATEMENT.
I do feel they target certain car types - why else would I get nailed on the night I specified?
That cop picked my car out at night, while letting tons of cars with 5% drive right by him.
In case you haven't heard/seen/read, SoCal is a place where "ricers" and street racers are being targeted for modded cars due to racing/crashing and killing people.
I know I got hit 'cause I drive a car that looks like the offender's cars do.
If I only had a nice set of....
#88
tint violations
I do agree with "SciontCya" with the fact that cops do single out cars that have been "tuned" in some way or the other. Reason being is because when I was pulled over...the cop came up to my car and asked me "do u know why i pulled u over" I said No..I wasn't speeding or anything...he says "your blue lights, your dark tint, and you have a lowered car". then he goes on and asks "do u have anything under the hood" I said NO. He then proceeds to give me a ticket for my tint. as he finishes and makes me sign the little red box. he says "change out your "blue" lights also. Now ok....I have HID at 4300K (WHITE) there is no way in hell they could've been blue either. so clearly this cop KNEW about cars and the little "modifications" that are done by many cars. HE SINGLED ME OUT BASED ON MY CAR!!!
#89
Originally Posted by SciontCya
Sorry, you know by my posts on this that I take the responsibility, but it's a bogus law, and to say it's enforced "randomly" is an UNDERSTATEMENT.[
I do feel they target certain car types - why else would I get nailed on the night I specified?
That cop picked my car out at night, while letting tons of cars with 5% drive right by him.
In case you haven't heard/seen/read, SoCal is a place where "ricers" and street racers are being targeted for modded cars due to racing/crashing and killing people.
I know I got hit 'cause I drive a car that looks like the offender's cars do.
I do feel they target certain car types - why else would I get nailed on the night I specified?
That cop picked my car out at night, while letting tons of cars with 5% drive right by him.
In case you haven't heard/seen/read, SoCal is a place where "ricers" and street racers are being targeted for modded cars due to racing/crashing and killing people.
I know I got hit 'cause I drive a car that looks like the offender's cars do.
If you continue throwing illegal mods in the the face of cops, of course they are going to target you, and you're to perpetuate the "tuner" stereotypes.
#90
Re: tint violations
Originally Posted by stCx86
HE SINGLED ME OUT BASED ON MY CAR!!!
And yes, he did target your vehicle because you had obvious illegal modifications.
so clearly this cop KNEW about cars and the little "modifications" that are done by many cars.
#91
Along with the streetlegal page, here's another quick list... http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/equipviolations.html
#92
Senior Member
SoCal tC Club
SL Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: St'd:Bahrain, 4rm:San Diego
Posts: 4,150
Re: tint violations
Originally Posted by 2fast4you
Originally Posted by stCx86
HE SINGLED ME OUT BASED ON MY CAR!!!
And yes, he did target your vehicle because you had obvious illegal modifications.
As my car is now, if I was in Cali or if state laws in FL were like there then....True enough I'd be mad that I got pulled over because of the mods, but not at the cop; I'd be mad at myself, the money that would be coughed up behind the ticket and putting it back to where it should be.
#93
Ok... this is what I am talking about when I say it seems that these laws are being made for the sole purpose of generating revenue...
by allowing officers to cite a driver based solely on their own judgement and without requiring them to actually test at the time of the stop, the state is basically able to get the driver to shell out money whether they are in violation or not, by saying 'go get it tested'... of course getting tested is not free. Then they have to further waste their time getting the citation nullified by showing their proof of legality. Under these circumstances, can a driver just show an officer proof of legality to get out of a ticket in the first place? I think not.
Note: New law (27150.2 VC) does not require law enforcement to use sound level meters to test for excessive noise. Citation is based on officer's judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at smog referee stations or may be directed by the court to have testing done. Vehicles in violation must be brought into compliance. A fine may also be imposed.
#96
Originally Posted by Shaka_Z
Ok... this is what I am talking about when I say it seems that these laws are being made for the sole purpose of generating revenue...
by allowing officers to cite a driver based solely on their own judgement and without requiring them to actually test at the time of the stop, the state is basically able to get the driver to shell out money whether they are in violation or not, by saying 'go get it tested'. [snip] Then they have to further waste their time getting the citation nullified by showing their proof of legality. Under these circumstances, can a driver just show an officer proof of legality to get out of a ticket in the first place? I think not.
Note: New law (27150.2 VC) does not require law enforcement to use sound level meters to test for excessive noise. Citation is based on officer's judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at smog referee stations or may be directed by the court to have testing done. Vehicles in violation must be brought into compliance. A fine may also be imposed.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=52339
The SEMA-sponsored exhaust laws REQUIRE testing using the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) test procedure J1169 in a "controlled enviroment", not roadside Sound Level Pressure (SPL) meters which testing can be contaminated by passing vehicles and other ambient noises. Under the SAE test, a calibrated microphone and/or sound meter is placed 20 inches from the exhaust outlet at a 45-degree angle. The engine is revved to three quarters of rated horsepower (~4,275 rpm for 2005-06 tC, slightly higher for '07-'08) and the highest sound reading is recorded [Maximum legal sound level is 95dB A-weighted]. This testing MUST be conducted by or under the supervision of SAE certified technicians, not patrol officers.
#97
you are missing my point... laws like this allow officers to too easily abuse their authority - at the very least they should pre-test the offending vehicle in the field so they can at least back up their 'judgement' with some kind of instrumented measurement - THEN send you to get it properly tested.
also, you didn't mention whether the testing was free or not, and under what circumstances... if an officer cites you, and tells you to get tested, only to have your setup found LEGAL, I think it should be completely free, the citation nullified and the mistake should go on the cop's record (not serious about that, but it might make him think twice and be more careful about who he pulls over and why). [edit]the only way the government should be able to fine you or convict you should be that it proves you are illegal from the start. chain of evidence and all that.
just my opinion.
also, you didn't mention whether the testing was free or not, and under what circumstances... if an officer cites you, and tells you to get tested, only to have your setup found LEGAL, I think it should be completely free, the citation nullified and the mistake should go on the cop's record (not serious about that, but it might make him think twice and be more careful about who he pulls over and why). [edit]the only way the government should be able to fine you or convict you should be that it proves you are illegal from the start. chain of evidence and all that.
just my opinion.
#98
Originally Posted by Shaka_Z
you are missing my point... laws like this allow officers to too easily abuse their authority - at the very least they should pre-test the offending vehicle in the field so they can at least back up their 'judgement' with some kind of instrumented measurement - THEN send you to get it properly tested.
also, you didn't mention whether the testing was free or not, and under what circumstances...
if an officer cites you, and tells you to get tested, only to have your setup found LEGAL, I think it should be completely free, the citation nullified... [snip]the only way the government should be able to fine you or convict you should be that it proves you are illegal from the start. chain of evidence and all that.
#99
Re: tint violations
Originally Posted by 2fast4you
Originally Posted by stCx86
HE SINGLED ME OUT BASED ON MY CAR!!!
And yes, he did target your vehicle because you had obvious illegal modifications.
so clearly this cop KNEW about cars and the little "modifications" that are done by many cars.
My lights are 100% LEGAL.
My only - now absorb this point - my ONLY illegal mod was the tint.
Get off of your high-horse.
My 35% tint is a relative joke - half of the cars roll here with 5% all around and seem to get by just fine.
Mine was barely darker than stock, and I did that to intentionally not stand out.
Enough of this bickering. I took the hit, I didn't give the officer any crap, and I paid the fine and took off the tint.
I think the law is crap, and if you think someone who is inclined to KILL A COP cares about tint laws, you're smoking too much while you type.
#100
I dunno where you guys live but in Cleveland the cops have never stopped me or any one of my friends for tint. On the other hand, in the suburbs they constantly stop people.
I guess it just depends where you live.
I guess it just depends where you live.