New 2012 scion model announced
10-07-2010, 04:07 AM
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New 2012 scion model announced
my father is currently at the National Dealers Meeting in las vegas and called up to say that they are releasing the FT-86 as a 2012 scion model. He said that it looks somewhat like the concept and was amazing. I asked him what the price would be about but they didnt say anything about that or about anything else really. this is just a little heads up
10-08-2010, 08:03 PM
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10-08-2010, 09:10 PM
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I'd prefer a 370 over a GTR any day.
Any who, this is most likely false. Not discrediting your father, just who ever delivered to him that lie. Kinda reminds me of the guy at the dealership who told me that the 2nd Gen tC is 4wd. I laughed and then told him no. But he gave me a good reason why he believed in that, motortrend had a typo in their mag.
Any who, this is most likely false. Not discrediting your father, just who ever delivered to him that lie. Kinda reminds me of the guy at the dealership who told me that the 2nd Gen tC is 4wd. I laughed and then told him no. But he gave me a good reason why he believed in that, motortrend had a typo in their mag.
10-14-2010, 08:09 PM
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this information was delivered at the toyota national dealers meeting in las vegas. so i dont think that toyota gathers their employees in las vegas, tells them no photographs, then tells them that they have a flying pig. In this case they had a prototype their that they actually showed everyone but photos of it have yet to show up and will most likely not show up until toyota feels like revealing it officially. yes and salemen are retarded i work with some.
10-14-2010, 10:40 PM
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i doubt it it will be a scion for 1 reason only.
there is supossidly 3 different models of it, base (non turbo), midgrade (turbo with a few extra features) and a high end model (turbo loaded up). scion is all monospec and that would go around another virtue of theirs (along with the sub 20k price tag, which the new tC already pushes). i dont see it coming out as a scion, but as a Toyota which would be better anyways, toyota needs a sports car since they got rid of the supra almost 15 years ago or somethin like that.
there is supossidly 3 different models of it, base (non turbo), midgrade (turbo with a few extra features) and a high end model (turbo loaded up). scion is all monospec and that would go around another virtue of theirs (along with the sub 20k price tag, which the new tC already pushes). i dont see it coming out as a scion, but as a Toyota which would be better anyways, toyota needs a sports car since they got rid of the supra almost 15 years ago or somethin like that.
10-15-2010, 12:32 AM
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I was told in Aug. by the local regional that the FT would be a reality and in show rooms within 17 months, and from what the OP says this fits. I agree with you Dave tho if there are offering multi levels of the same models it will go to Toyota/Lexus 
10-15-2010, 02:15 AM
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it wont be lexus, its gonna be a toyota, lexus already has the IS line up and the SC as their 2 door "sports car" if you wanna call it that lol. but especially now with the LFA they wont be getting the FT-86, toyota will be getting it.
it will fit a toyota better then lexus or scion. Scion is MONOSPEC meaning the only 2 factory choices are color and transmission, everything else is the same. Scion set out to let the customer pick the options they want and leave the ones they dont want off the car. toyota will gladly accept the FT-86 because they dont have anything like that, and they dont have anything to compete with the Hyundai Genesis, Nissan 370z, Ford Mustang (v6), or any other sports coupe out there, they just barely came out with something that could hang with a Civic SI (the 11 tC) lol.
toyota is hurting in that market which is why i'll be 2 months bonus checks on that it will not be a scion lol
as a Toyota/Scion Sales person i get asked everyday. whats the sportiest car Toyota makes and i have to reply (confidently btw lol) that if you want a sporty coupe the tC is the way to go, if its a sedan the corrola S, and if you want a v6 camry se lol
it will fit a toyota better then lexus or scion. Scion is MONOSPEC meaning the only 2 factory choices are color and transmission, everything else is the same. Scion set out to let the customer pick the options they want and leave the ones they dont want off the car. toyota will gladly accept the FT-86 because they dont have anything like that, and they dont have anything to compete with the Hyundai Genesis, Nissan 370z, Ford Mustang (v6), or any other sports coupe out there, they just barely came out with something that could hang with a Civic SI (the 11 tC) lol.
toyota is hurting in that market which is why i'll be 2 months bonus checks on that it will not be a scion lol
as a Toyota/Scion Sales person i get asked everyday. whats the sportiest car Toyota makes and i have to reply (confidently btw lol) that if you want a sporty coupe the tC is the way to go, if its a sedan the corrola S, and if you want a v6 camry se lol
10-15-2010, 04:27 AM
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SC is no more after the 2010 model run. The IS convertible is taking over. And when they redesign the IS there will be a coupe variant.
To me this is a huge mistake. A $25k Scion with a 2.5 that's most likely going to be 200hp is just flat out not worth it. So many other vehicles that'll offer way more performance for the same price. It'll probably handle like a pig so you can buy all of those overpriced TRD performance goodies. And I've also heard they want to mess with the styling and make it more squared off
Toyota is shooting themselves in the foot with the huge marketing campaign they could of had with this thing. They've been showing the concept with the AE-86, they could have brought it back as the Celica here. Get the youth interested in Toyota again while getting some excitement with the older crowd as well as Celica enthusiasts.
To me this is a huge mistake. A $25k Scion with a 2.5 that's most likely going to be 200hp is just flat out not worth it. So many other vehicles that'll offer way more performance for the same price. It'll probably handle like a pig so you can buy all of those overpriced TRD performance goodies. And I've also heard they want to mess with the styling and make it more squared off
Toyota is shooting themselves in the foot with the huge marketing campaign they could of had with this thing. They've been showing the concept with the AE-86, they could have brought it back as the Celica here. Get the youth interested in Toyota again while getting some excitement with the older crowd as well as Celica enthusiasts.
10-15-2010, 04:40 AM
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Okay now I gotta talk here.
I cannot see Scion surviving anymore. Not as the brand they set out to be and promised their original owners.
Toyota giving the FT-86 to the Scion brand is basically them trying to save the brand. I would not say it is a last ditch effort, but it is getting close. But it will all be for nothing if they do not come in on the price point they originally set out to hit. It looks like this thing is hitting closer to 30k than 20k, like they wanted. This could revitalize the brand, could.
I don't see much of a future for the quirky and fun Scion brand of just a couple years ago. This brand will be absorbed into Toyota soon because they are going to be bitten by the beige bug of mediocrity.
This car is becoming like GT5. Pushed back, and back, and back. Maybe we will never actually see it. I am skeptical until this this is a tangible production model.
I cannot see Scion surviving anymore. Not as the brand they set out to be and promised their original owners.
Toyota giving the FT-86 to the Scion brand is basically them trying to save the brand. I would not say it is a last ditch effort, but it is getting close. But it will all be for nothing if they do not come in on the price point they originally set out to hit. It looks like this thing is hitting closer to 30k than 20k, like they wanted. This could revitalize the brand, could.
I don't see much of a future for the quirky and fun Scion brand of just a couple years ago. This brand will be absorbed into Toyota soon because they are going to be bitten by the beige bug of mediocrity.
This car is becoming like GT5. Pushed back, and back, and back. Maybe we will never actually see it. I am skeptical until this this is a tangible production model.
10-15-2010, 04:41 AM
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it wont be toyotaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol
20k will start out as a N/A base, then it'll be around 25-30 for the next level up which will include turbo, then 30-33 for the fully loaded one, just like all other toyotas lol
20k will start out as a N/A base, then it'll be around 25-30 for the next level up which will include turbo, then 30-33 for the fully loaded one, just like all other toyotas lol