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Old 03-23-2009, 03:41 AM
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dude this ish is unreal....
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:45 AM
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its funny how obama is being use as a figure of change but a change that we arent all aware of....

it makes me understand the bullish goin on and i knew politics are all about money and names but damn politics is just a mask for the real deal...
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:51 AM
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exactly, i knew obama was a facade from day one
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:55 AM
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all i have to say is WOW
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:06 AM
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:53 AM
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We need a little perspective, if we're going to stay sane in these times.

Now, this video is very conspiracy-oriented, but much better than the "zeitgeist" movie. Whereas the zeitgeist movie made a huge number of illogical leaps, this one's a lot more succinct, and much more believable.

It's very interesting to me how conspiracy theories, as well as generalized "fear and panic" messages, can take hold in people's psyche so quickly and solidly. It's a common tactic for organizations, with whatever agenda in mind, to use scare tactics to control. In a way, conspiracy groups do the same thing, though their purpose is not as clear.

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But for the sake of discussion... let's assume that this movie is correct.
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What can YOU do about it? .... Nothing.

If fate brings you to a position where you have the ability to do something, then great! Otherwise, we have an obligation to ourselves to not live in a state of fear. Turn off the news. Quit reading Drudge and FARK. Like a soap opera, one news viewing every few days is probably enough.

If the U.S. collapses, sure, it's probably going to suck. But, chances are, you and I will survive it. Then what? We do the same thing we're supposed to be doing now, living our lives, accomplishing our goals (albeit, changed), and doing what we can day-by-day to make things better for our kids.

The only silver lining to the situation, is one that most decent religions offer.... and that is, only in the face of the most difficult hardships, does the potential for "good" truly come out.
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thanks sensei, did you watch the video or basing this of its exterior?
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:59 AM
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I try not to comment without knowing the subject... but admittedly, I'm only halfway through it right now. (As of midnight sunday).

Unless it does a complete 180, I think my opinion's been formed.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by senseiturtle
I try not to comment without knowing the subject... but admittedly, I'm only halfway through it right now. (As of midnight sunday).

Unless it does a complete 180, I think my opinion's been formed.
understandable, i see where your coming from but i do think that some of the issue do have substance

i can also understand that it is driven by a conspiracy theory and that the producers of the documentary have some sort of agenda but i cant tell what it is
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:35 AM
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I had to skip a few parts in order to get all of this done, so I can get to bed.

Not bad, and I generally agree with the movie... but, as far as "what can I do," the answer is simply live your life. Life is too short to live in fear.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:36 AM
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i do agree
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:37 AM
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ill bump ya real quick lol...so that i can watch this in the morning.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:38 AM
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sounds good, def worth 1:53 of your time
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*yawn*

going to bed, gotta be up in 6 hours to work 9 and a half hours.

40 minutes in though.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:07 PM
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I wish this wasn't old news.....
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I just finished this whole thing last nite best 1:53 of my time just some of the stuff they talked about is so crazy i just hope nothing like the holocaust never happends again. And Obama used as puppet is a crazy thing to think about makes you think why WERE the ppl so happy when he was elected, was it because he is going to be our first african american president, was he really gonna bring change, or was he jsut something to fall back on because alot of the ppl wanted bush out. KRS-one had alot of good points too and also the guy from public enemy. And when the narrator was outlining some of the plans later on in the film it was alot of scary stuff like WWIII later in the future which might not be true but can happen. Or even when they quoted Lincoln as if he already knew what was going to happen in the future. But well see how it plays out, just thought i would throw this out there.

Gets you thinking or is this just another thing to get you afraid.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:45 PM
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a lot of the info was stuff I have known for a long time but they consolidated it well
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:12 PM
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I'll watch the video later, but after just looking at the guy's Youtube page, I'm pretty much expecting another Loose Change video, IE it sounds like it makes sense, but when it comes down to it, they just twist the facts a little to suit their agenda, and it's pretty clear what this guy's agenda is.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by teamben158
I'll watch the video later, but after just looking at the guy's Youtube page, I'm pretty much expecting another Loose Change video, IE it sounds like it makes sense, but when it comes down to it, they just twist the facts a little to suit their agenda, and it's pretty clear what this guy's agenda is.
actually it is very well documented and much better than most I have seen if you watch it without an agenda you will digest it better
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