firstkingofbeer

this was mine

boooosty

arn't they mr2's known for oversteer? or was it understeer

CDogbert

It goes from understeer due to having no weight in the front... to snap oversteer from having a rear-biased mid-engine placement, and someone who doesn't know how to drive a car with the engine in the back. You see this phenomenon more prominently in Porsche's than anything.

draxcaliber

well, actually, toyota tuned the suspension for more understeer to give the driver more confidence in the car since they might be overwhelmed by the car feeling too responsive and easy to oversteer.

and porsches are much more known for oversteer because they are rear engined as opposed to mid engined (in the case of the 911)

CDogbert

The problem with that, though, is that once people DID get the confidence to handle the car, they'd drive it like it was front-engined. "Oh, I'm understeering through the corner, I'll just lift a little," and then they'd be facing backwards.

Technitarded

aptly stated sir *tips hat*

i've never really been all that into porsches except for the 911 GTR

greybox

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/938174748.html

I work with a guy who is friends with the shop owner that built this monster-this would be an awesome car and yet I am still too big to drive it-crap!

firesquare

the new MR2 is the lotus.

the 1st get was hot. i had a matchbox car of one it was my fave!

Technitarded

^dude yea i have to say i like the lotus a lot, but come on... v6 $60,000??? (except for the V8 Espirit... i love that car *drool*)

flintMicaTC

v6??? The lotus elise comes with the 2zz from the celica gts... And the lotus exige is the same just supercharged. That's the new version mr2 I. Think he was talking about

firesquare

yup. 2ZZ motor in there.

Technitarded

^ http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=183139

firesquare

so do we now pronounce it Toylotus or toyLoTa

that sounds sexy having a 2GR in a vehicle other then a camry or a avalon.

Technitarded

nah the lotus cars of late are made by toyota standard and they have been for a lil while...

my point was that the Lotus Evora is a V6 VVT-i 3.5 liter whereas you guys where saying they just have Celica engines (which is true for the lotus Elise)

firesquare

i learned something new. thanks!!

Technitarded

haha me tastes sarcasm

senseiturtle

Just a difference of "which lotus?"

People RARELY see Esprits, but far more often see the Elise/Exige. The Evora is literally a brand-spanking new model that hasn't hit the roads yet.

I sometimes question why they went with the 2zz. Why not the honda s2k motor, a-la atom?

firesquare

no sarcasm here. that makes it a reliable supercar :-)

Technitarded

haha yea i gotta come clean, i thought the Elise/Exige were v6 powered... didnt know it was celica so when you guys were like "V6???" the evora is the only one i could think of that had a v6 lol X-)