seattledave

What's more morally reprehensible to you?

Assisted Suicide or Abortion?

This is mostly for those of you that are pro-nochoice (pro-life).

draxcaliber

thats a pretty hard one. neither one is reprehensible.

jorez

Where is your third option?

None of the above

citizen01

Hmmm... It would seem that abortion (for the pro-nochoicers) would be the easy winner.

scionofPCFL

Well, I'm pro-choice, however I'm still morally against the procedure. Life is life. However, I can see the bigger picture and have a fundamental issue with making things illegal when I see that it'll actually worsen the overall situation.

matt_a

I'm anti-abortion, so I'll answer. I really don't like either one. I view life as a gift. If I had to pick one (for the sake of discussion) I would say that I'm more against abortion than assisted suicide. Mostly because the person commiting suicide at least made a willfull decision to end their life. In abortion, that "choice" is made for the baby.
Those are my views. I will gladly discuss them as long as this doesn't turn in to abortion debate number 10,001.

citizen01

LOL... Matt, you've been around here long enough to know that this has about 4 more posts before it is a full fledged abortion debate and then about a page and a half before it is a "god" debate. You should know better.

Skeorx13

I'm pro-quality-life. If you would be bringing a child into the world that won't be loved 100% and wanted 100%, don't. If your life is riddled with torment and pain, I have no problem with ending it. Neither of these is reprehensible to me unless the mother is just a dumb ***** who won't use protection.

salteen

lol aint that the truth!
kill em all!!

citizen01

There are definitely instances where imo niether are morally reprehensible or even wrong. With two topics that have so much grey zone it may be wise to set constants, for instance:

which is worse...
mother has an abortion due to rape
or
terminally ill cancer patient in extreme daily pain meets with his family and all involved parties agree death is the best option


(How long have off topic posts counted toward the bar? I was so excited to see how big it was today.) (No "that's what she said" jokes please )

matt_a

I'm sure you're right, but I was trying to be optimistic. What was I thinking?

Jenna

Abortion is more morally reprehensible.

You said "Abortion for a mother who chooses to have one for whatever reason" and, well, it takes a whole lot more than "whatever reason" before I'll keep from being disgusted. I am glad for the option being there for medical reasons though.

I don't think I have much of a problem with assisted suicide. I do have to say that the whole thought of people, terminally ill or not, ending their lives, gives me a bad feeling inside.

The assisted suicide people are killed humanely.

seattledave

yeah, i didn't know how to state "abortion as a whole".

Personally, I'm all for terminally ill people ending their life if they want to.
My outlook on life's end probably has a lot to do with it though, as I view someone calmly choosing to cease to be instead of being in constant mental or physical pain, as almost serene.

jct

i'm all for it!

Budsmoke

I think that abortion is more morally wrong..

I find it ironic that abortion is illegal and euthanasia is not (except in Oregon). On one hand, a woman has a “right” to terminate the beginning of a life that does not belong to her. And on the other hand, a person is not allowed to terminate the “ending” of their own life.

So what would happen if a mother “ok’d” the termination of their grown child (with the child’s permission). Could they argue that the continuance of this life would harm their own? Life support is very costly, and the expense could cause an enormous amount of stress, which could lead to health problems of her own. And not only could the stress effect her health, but the financial expenses could also hinder her ability to afford proper medical care to prolong her own life.

oldmanatee

Abortion is worse....both are bad, but the assisted suicide at least has a say in the matter.

ZlineDavid

All depends on the context of how each is performed.

seattledave

Yes, we all know one way is good, and one way is bad. But overall, anyway for any reason vs. anyway for any reason

TheRealBen

I see no reason why abortion should not be allowed if the fetus was not conceived willfully(rape/abuse/etc.) or if there are medical health reasons that would affect either the mother or the baby.

Abortion because you got knocked up on Saturday night, now you're just a retard.

Budsmoke

Would you care to elaborate more on your thought? I know that I am intoxicated right now, but I am sober enough to know that what I just read doesn't really make any sense.