my bad... I forgot NOPI had three classes last year, Street, Custom and Wild. So looks like it was the luck of the draw and from what people are saying the judges didnt know what they were doing.

Here is some info I found online'

 

Thanks Chad. I had a blast at this show. A little hot, but a blast. That is what it is about. When my wife entered our car she put it under NOPI chic. I was entering roberts so she entered ours. Hell, she took first in NOPI chic. Hell, she did not even think she would really place with our car. She did know that she could not compete in the crossover class and stand a chance.

I was just being silly. I did not even think that someone would run with it and try to make what I said worse than how I said it/meant it. I should know better with some of the tempers in our region.

 

Im with you on this...Shouldn't they/them be easy to find...

2manystickers, why post behind an anonymous and fictitous account? We have an open forum and feel free to post what you would like, but atleast make yourself known! That way it's easier for me to hunt you down...

As for the original post, congrats to the winners...I think everyone should have gotten a trophy for braving 2-days of torterous heat...

 

It was a mess judge wise.. my 350z and g35 buds got screwed out of there whole class, that pretty much ruined the night for myself and friends. Also they looked at my car and said without a doubt it was to be in "custom" when I did not even have a body kit ah well. Long two day sunburned event, good fun, good hooters, good drifting and good god I am glad it is over haha!

 

If you put Kelly in Custom and Jeremy in Street (like they probably should have been?) guess what happens.

They both get 1st anyway!

It really makes no difference.

 

as far as 2manystickers goes lets ignore it and stay on topic.

There were many aspects of the judging at the event that were way off like the Z and G35 guys getting screwed over, heidi getting my points, not the mention the horrible way that they did the club participation by who could scream the loudest.

Why would any club want to reprisent again at NOPI when its not your numbers its your lungs that help you win?

 

Well put!!! I was just kidding in my first post, but honestly it would not have mattered.

As always, great job Kelly. But whoever this jerk is, they need to get a life!!!

 

what club? Scionetics? I thought scionetics isnt a club.

 

No, scikotics was represented. By some members. They did a shout out to determine club particpation. One club was using a horn. The Nissan club should have won, but some other club won.

 

I actually have to agree, I am usually pretty cool with things but the show was a total mess weather I won somthing or not it does not matter. To many people left with bad feelings from us not getting our trophies, to the guy getting knocked out in line in front of my 6 year old, to the nissan guys literally getting the shaft, to category goofs... Felt like no one knew what was going on at all. I do not plan to attend next year but it was an experience to remember.... Two days of that was just to much for me. 1 day would have been perfect. Ah well, guess they cannot make them all perfect like roswell, although roswell could be 2 days and I think I would still be cool with that!

 

Why you gotta rain on my trophy, Scott?!?!

(hehe...just kidding)

 

just to clear things up when you pre-registered you picked which class you wanted to be in and when you signed up at the event they asked what class you were in. so i doubt nopi classed the car as you say considering here is the class terminology from their website...

last i checked you had a little more then minor bolt ons and you did have a full body kit and what they would classify as a radical wing.

personally, i think you would have taken 1st or 2nd in custom so would have rather seen you compete in your own class. it would have been a toss up with you and jeremy but you have the audio/video which he doesnt.

but oh well. just didnt make sense for you to be in street.

 

Yeah I have to be honest, I feel he would have won custom if he was in it as I did not have time to finish the new system or the interior work, the turbo setup pushed is FAR past our time available to make it and I made the mistake of tearing out the old stuff thinking I had time., ah well guys let it die, show is long over and all the cars looked great.

 

^^Agreed^^

 

I would first like to apologize to everyone who competed in both classes for the miss on my part. It was not my intention to do so and if and when my trophy arrives I have yet to decide if I will keep it or send it back to NOPI.

I add this as clarification as nobody likes excuses. I am sorry I forgot this gentleman’s name, he was the director of the car show, getting the cars in place, signing people up, judging best of show and announcements of the winners on stage.

When I arrived he placed the tC at the booth to make sure I was not in a fire lane or a walk way for spectators. We talked for a while about the show and he even looked at the tC inside and out. He left and several of us walked over to registration which was a zoo and the line was very long.

This gentleman came over to registration and pulled ALL SCION pre-registration people to another line to the side and he was handling them personally. Dagahart was in front of me filling out forms, upon completion it turns out NOPI had TWO sets of forms and entry numbers, one for NOPI and SCION. They were required to fill them out again and upon handing those in he almost used the wrong ones again!!

When my turn was up he asked my name, I also asked to make sure he had the correct form for SCION and NOT NOPI. I also asked to make sure I was in the correct class, he said “you’re the guy with the tC I just parked” I said “yes”. We went down the list, Turbo OK, coilovers OK, stereo OK, seats and harness’s OK, full body kit with carbon fiber hood and wing, he asked “is it molded in or bolted on” I said “ bolted on”. He said “You’re in the street class”. I questioned him again on the body kit and he added clarification as to what qualified custom vs street. If I am talking to the head of the car show, he is the expert and he should know the rules a lot better than me I have to rely on them. Especially since he just saw the car ten minutes prior and had a long conversion and showed him the car inside and out. Again, I share in this miss on my part.

This person also came back to the SCION lane to review Dave and Chris xB for best of show. He visited for almost 20 to 30 minutes, talked to all of us about the show and how so many cars being so close. That he was not going to let the best of show be judged by anyone else and that he had to make that decision based on his expertise in judging show cars. How do you wind up with ten best of shows, I am not sure.

I was not aware of the 350Z and G35 group’s issues, I have not asked but it appears to have not gone well for them.

Scott and Hedi issue, I think she will let Scott wrestle her for the trophy for awhile! I still feel Scotties anguish about the results posting and the mix up. Though he won he does not get the recognition he deserved.

Group participation, I though that is what we put on our forms as the club we belonged to when registering in person and online. How it was changed to who could yell the loudest is beyond me.

The issues with the trophies not being ready, they were water stained and no labels on what class you won! Bad execution and completely unacceptable. The presentation on stage to bring everyone up, well, is not what one should expect for a win after two days of labor. No trophy presentation on stage, no photo opts with your group or peers.

I am not shedding my responsibility as a competitor to know the rules and ask the questions. I apologize for that miss. All of use has interacted for two days with the head show coordinator, he is directing, judging us and running the show. This is his job and what NOPI pays him to do. Based on my issue and the others now coming to light I may have counted on the organization to much to make sure everything was correct.

Thank you to all that for pointing this out and about the event and all the issues. I suspect it will make all of us much better and smarter competitors. I am glad this was brought out as I would not feel good about having this lingering around.

Dagahart, please don’t be upset, I am not mad at you or that anyone else is either. I know that you feel horrible about this whole thread. Your intensions were honorable and being a good member of the community by providing the results. Please do not let this entire NOPI BS cause you to change your ways or commitment to the community.

I am done, the last I will speak of this and hope that Scott or someone will finally lock this thing and let it go away.

 

This NOPI event was really a mess. Very dis-organized like Kelly & Jeremy said. They almost put Juanita in the wrong class. We had to make sure they put her in NOPI Chic street instead of Crossover street (which she knew she could not compete with the awesome xBs in that class. She thought she would try the other class she was eligible for).

Kelly, in my opinion, I think you deserve the trophy regardless of how NOPI screwed up. As disorganized as this was, i would not blame you at all and neither should anyone else.

What really made it worse was the fact that some of us registered on the Scion website thinking it was just for the food tent, but in reality it was for the actual event (which most of us registered for on the NOPI website too).

Heck, I think George was in the wrong class. Wasn't he closer to stock and got 2nd in custom? Regardless, the Scions beat Lexus!!!!

Also, the judges did not have a clue as far as what class they were judging. They came up with points when judging. From what I could tell, they were not judging class, they were judging the vehicle and scored based on that. Then they took the highest scores in each class to come up with the winners.

Maybe Kelly should have been in custom, but it did not happen. At this point it is over and done with. The only thing it may have changed was the place that George got in custom and that Andrew might have placed and Kahuna (chuck) in the first place position.

At this point, it really doesn't matter. It is over and done and it is no body's fault except NOPI. The only reason we caught that Juanita was getting put into the wrong class was the fact that we asked. Otherwise you would never catch it because of the website mess-ups. Kelly, I would keep the trophy, you deserve it. I firmly believe it was a NOPI mistake.

Some of this would be like saying Juanita should not get her trophy because I am part owner of the vehicle. The way I see it and so do most, she entered the vehicle and is part owner and helps make decissions as far as what mods WE do. Heck, I would have her enter this class again, even if I am not entering another vehicle. She competed against around 25 vehicles and won. She explained the mods and reason for the mods to the judge and all (I was not even there).

 

I took first, not second in custom over the lexus's haha thanks!

 

The great part is that we all went up against the other vehicle types and won (it wasn't just against scion). That is awesome!!! And if the event coordinator said he should be in street, that is where he should be. Sounds like Kelly did everything he could. I am behind you 100%.

 

i think you should keep the trohy Kelly, dont send it back to NOPI. If that judge ( and I know who you are talking about and he was cool) told you that you should be in street I want to say I trust his opinion and would place less blame on him and more on NOPI for having such messed up categories for having people of such a different caliber of modification compete against each other.

 

Thanks everyone for your support,