Tealtoaster

Wasn't blaming you Care-beee Keen-toe... I agree with you to an extent. The guy did pose his concern with a troubleshooting overtone so everyone jumped in with their ideas of what it could be. If this was just a rant, then he should have said so. As far as what I said about aftermarket parts, dealers do frown upon bolt on parts. Wikipedia SEMA and look at the "Also see", you'll see the Magnuson Warranty Act listed there... It's good info for anyone modding with a warranty. I fail to see where that is off topic on a rant about a dealer not wanting to initially fix an issue on a car still under warranty.

draxcaliber

okay...have you ever heard of...lemon laws? get a lawyer, have toyota buy the car back, and get a new xB or whatever you want to buy instead.

jamesfg49

Unfortunately we don't have lemon laws out here like they do in Cali.

As far as deleted posts, happens all the time, someone runs this place like their own empire. Careful the Scion internet police are watching and deleting.

Tealtoaster

LOL ^ Why I come here far less than other places... Talk about shooting your own feet!

draxcaliber

http://www.keytlaw.com/az/lemonlaw.htm

emrules2001

Actually, there are. My sister bought a Lancer that had the A/C go out on her the week after she bought it, then other electrical problems came on the heels of that and she was able to return it within the month.

jamesfg49

I was misinformed, there is a LL in AZ. But Allen don't qualify for it

ARIZONA’S LEMON LAW
New Car
The Arizona Lemon Law has a number of specific provisions. You should read the law, file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau AUTO LINE Program or consult with an attorney if your new car is a lemon. Here are the basics.

The period covered by the Lemon Law is the term of the manufacturer’s warranty or two years or 24,000 miles, whichever is earlier. This covered period begins on the date of delivery of the vehicle to the consumer.
If there is a problem with the car that substantially impairs the use and value of the car and does not conform to the express warranty of the manufacturer, the consumer should report it to the manufacturer.
The report must be made during the covered period.
The manufacturer or its authorized dealers can repair or correct the defect, accept return of the car or replace the car with a new car.
There is a limit on the number of times a consumer must allow the manufacturer to repair the car and the amount of time the car can be out of service. If during the covered period, the manufacturer fails to successfully repair the defect after four attempts, or the car is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days, the manufacturer must accept return of the car or replace the car with a new car.

draxcaliber

uhm...he does, his car is still just barely within the 3 year/36k mile bumper to bumper warranty, and still well within the 5 year/60k mile warranty.

the 2 year/24k mile warranty the law mentions is if the car wasn't sold with a warranty. that is why it says OR. so he is well within the toyota warranty. go get a lawyer and get yourself a new car or your money back.

Tomas

Now to all the crybabies whining about deleted posts: They were taking the thread off topic and were getting a bit argumentative about things that were actually off topic, so one of the mods cleaned it up trying to get it back on topic.

Now that some are crying about it and writing PMs and emails griping about perfectly legitimate moderation, I un-deleted SOME of those posts and will comment on 'em...

Several posts were deleted for being off-topic, but those posts DID bring up some important points that were more or less in response to the original question (how to get decent warranty service from a dealer).

The info about it potentially being a MAF sensor problem is germane since the OP had an aftermarket intake that COULD have caused the problem and the owner needs to check to make certain that none of the modifications are causing the problem BEFORE demanding warranty service.

Likewise the SEMA comment and info on Moss-Magnuson act is also germane, but slightly incorrect, and rather than being partially blotted out needs to be appropriately responded to.

The intent of the M-M Act is to require that the DEALER prove the aftermarket parts caused the problem, not that the OWNER prove they didn't. That's just the opposite of what was stated above.

Now that you folks have spent more time complaining about some posts being deleted (some still are) than you have in helping the OP, I'll go ahead and close this thread, which has now become primarily a thread complaining about the forum.

Enjoy!