Scion Driver Dies Racing On 360 in Arlington
#21
Yeah exactly like what he said. A controlled risk. A risk in which all the precautions are taken that can be thought of. In this case: emergency crews, fire extinguishers, professional crew operating the start line and making sure the track is clear.. You're still risking your car and yourself, but its much less of a risk than racing on the street where cars randomly come from cross streets, pedestrians cross, the start line is run by some random kid, etc.
#24
sad to say it, but i'm not surprised one bit.
jeez, if all these people are racing and wrecking during the WINTER...imagine what the summer is going to be like...
i predict this summer will be what will come to be known as "The Scion Effect", in which thousands of kids will die or be injured driving scions at "high rates of speed". The natural end result of putting moderately powered cars into the hands of young, inexperienced noob-kid drivers to whom money is no consequence, and therefore mod their cars to be "tuner wannabees" and hot rod around town.
Theres a difference being going fast, and being an A-hole street racer. Mainly, discretion. knowing when and when NOT to drive fast...and knowing how to control your own car.
i'm sorry to be so critical, but i'd feel horrible if i didn't say anything and another young "Scion hot-rodder" dies trying to show off his/her new toy.
i guarantee, if you look up the percentage of scions (esp. tc's) involved in deadly or near fatal accidents, i think the number would be surprising high per capita, compared to other cars.
and yes, like someone else said, this reflects very poorly on the rest of us scion drivers.
jeez, if all these people are racing and wrecking during the WINTER...imagine what the summer is going to be like...
i predict this summer will be what will come to be known as "The Scion Effect", in which thousands of kids will die or be injured driving scions at "high rates of speed". The natural end result of putting moderately powered cars into the hands of young, inexperienced noob-kid drivers to whom money is no consequence, and therefore mod their cars to be "tuner wannabees" and hot rod around town.
Theres a difference being going fast, and being an A-hole street racer. Mainly, discretion. knowing when and when NOT to drive fast...and knowing how to control your own car.
i'm sorry to be so critical, but i'd feel horrible if i didn't say anything and another young "Scion hot-rodder" dies trying to show off his/her new toy.
i guarantee, if you look up the percentage of scions (esp. tc's) involved in deadly or near fatal accidents, i think the number would be surprising high per capita, compared to other cars.
and yes, like someone else said, this reflects very poorly on the rest of us scion drivers.
#30
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Same thing, you know what was meant by it. Besides some risks aren't as risky. And by being on a track or as you say "controlled enviroment" ou still have risk, but it is controlled. That was the point.
#31
no at first I didn't it took me a min. to figure out what was said after you all explained it.
But my point is it is still a risk a tire can blow out either on the track or on the streets the only difference is on the track only your life is endangered while on the street you risk other peoples life.
ON TOPIC Now to this dude it is unfortunate that this had to happen track or no track racing as a novice is just stoopid.
IMO I feel you should at the least enroll yourself in a drivers course to practice how and what to do in emergency situation also get a feel for the LIMITS of your car.
But my point is it is still a risk a tire can blow out either on the track or on the streets the only difference is on the track only your life is endangered while on the street you risk other peoples life.
ON TOPIC Now to this dude it is unfortunate that this had to happen track or no track racing as a novice is just stoopid.
IMO I feel you should at the least enroll yourself in a drivers course to practice how and what to do in emergency situation also get a feel for the LIMITS of your car.
#33
Actually, me and the guy with the Vette (Lupe and the others of you that were at Simple Quick Racing a few Saturdays ago, met him) are going to both the level 1 and the level 2 driving school classes out at Motorsport Ranch in Cresson (20 min west of Fort Worth). It's a world-class facility and world-class class from what I've heard. Plus, its the kind of racing that I love: road courses :D
mmmmmmm turns.. giggity giggity giggity
mmmmmmm turns.. giggity giggity giggity
#36
Originally Posted by tekisui
poop. I'm SURE. :D :D
But I know if I got on anything with just two wheels, by the end of the day, I'll be either in traction or in a box. I'll stick to 4 wheels, thanks. :D
But I know if I got on anything with just two wheels, by the end of the day, I'll be either in traction or in a box. I'll stick to 4 wheels, thanks. :D
#37
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Originally Posted by stick_1NZ
Kids. This gives us (Scion Owners) a bad name. One reason for the cops to pull us over. Sorry for the death but it's pointless to be racing on a highway. TAKE IT TO THE TRACKS!!!
#38
Yeah. There's plenty of places to go (as I listed earlier). The trick is getting these kids to figured out how much more fun it is at a track. Yeah I agree there is that element of danger on the street that provides a thrill, but I have way more fun at Ennis, running on a real track, getting real times, and pushing my car around with the hood up between passes. And occationally putting out fires in peoples engine bays :D
#39
yea theres nothing like the feeling i get when going about 100mph in my tC at TMS! and then getting the ____ scared outta me when the turn comes up and i think that theres no way in hell that the real guys go at this turn faster then this.