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#6041
before you go to far go look around at what ppl have done with the tibby. there are plenty of well done cars out there. and stock for stock its a damn good competitor for the tC.
it might not be your cup of tea but that doesnt mean its a bad car. they have been dead reliable and frankly i dont think the tibby is a bad looking car.
it might not be your cup of tea but that doesnt mean its a bad car. they have been dead reliable and frankly i dont think the tibby is a bad looking car.
#6043
19in wheels and sport mufflers from a dealership. do not make a company a player in the "tuner" market.
Scion is marketed as a fad. the tuning craze, they push that and that makes it "cool" but that will also be there biggest down fall when the 1st big wave of cars start getting traded in because no one wants a modded car. resale value is going to fall and none of the "cool kids" want to be seen in the out of date model and since toyota has nothing to offer ppl looking for a fun car, those buyers are going to go on to another company. so in that respect, scion fails as a brand.
in general there has been a shift from drag racing to drifting and time attack. where rwd and 4wd cars excel and scion and toyota have no players in that game. i woudlnt be surprised to see scion become the next saturn, (the cheap brand to the mother ship) in a few years
Scion is marketed as a fad. the tuning craze, they push that and that makes it "cool" but that will also be there biggest down fall when the 1st big wave of cars start getting traded in because no one wants a modded car. resale value is going to fall and none of the "cool kids" want to be seen in the out of date model and since toyota has nothing to offer ppl looking for a fun car, those buyers are going to go on to another company. so in that respect, scion fails as a brand.
in general there has been a shift from drag racing to drifting and time attack. where rwd and 4wd cars excel and scion and toyota have no players in that game. i woudlnt be surprised to see scion become the next saturn, (the cheap brand to the mother ship) in a few years
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Like i said i admit it is sexy as hell but it wouldnt be something i would have first on my list of cars for the money
we will talk about the hyundai more when the production model is released at the ny auto show lets see what the end up really coming out with.......
we will talk about the hyundai more when the production model is released at the ny auto show lets see what the end up really coming out with.......
#6047
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/08/h...y-undesguised/
there is the production model. looks the same but with out the 19in wheels and carbon hood. and look what is parked next to it!
there is the production model. looks the same but with out the 19in wheels and carbon hood. and look what is parked next to it!
#6049
PRELIMINARY PRODUCTION CAR DETAILS
-Engine type: V6
-Estimated horsepower: more than 300 horsepower
-Estimated torque: more than 250 lb. ft.
-Displacement: 3.8 liters
-Block material: high pressure die cast aluminum
-Cylinder head material: aluminum
-Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
-Valve timing: continuous variable valve timing
-Estimated 0-60 mph: under 6 seconds
-Transmission type: 6-speed manual
-Front brakes: Brembo, 340 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
-Rear brakes: Brembo, 330 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
-Limited slip differential
thats a serious car. brembo brakes, LSD, 6spd manual...
-Engine type: V6
-Estimated horsepower: more than 300 horsepower
-Estimated torque: more than 250 lb. ft.
-Displacement: 3.8 liters
-Block material: high pressure die cast aluminum
-Cylinder head material: aluminum
-Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
-Valve timing: continuous variable valve timing
-Estimated 0-60 mph: under 6 seconds
-Transmission type: 6-speed manual
-Front brakes: Brembo, 340 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
-Rear brakes: Brembo, 330 mm disc, twin-piston calipers
-Limited slip differential
thats a serious car. brembo brakes, LSD, 6spd manual...
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Originally Posted by Cmec2004
if it wasnt a hyundia though would u think about it
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Alot of Scion owners part their cars out too, so I wouldn't say that they've failed.
I'd have to see about the reliability and quality of that car in the long run before I'd ever want one.
From a purely visual aspect though, I dig it.
I'd have to see about the reliability and quality of that car in the long run before I'd ever want one.
From a purely visual aspect though, I dig it.
#6055
Originally Posted by Zillon
Alot of Scion owners part their cars out too, so I wouldn't say that they've failed.
I'd have to see about the reliability and quality of that car in the long run before I'd ever want one.
From a purely visual aspect though, I dig it.
I'd have to see about the reliability and quality of that car in the long run before I'd ever want one.
From a purely visual aspect though, I dig it.
#6056
and the only reason scion is seen as a "tuner car" is because of the marketing and advertising dollars they put into making you think that. in reality there are plenty of better cars out there to modify.
with this car and a good ad agency Hyundai could turn there company into the performance bargain company with on two years.
with this car and a good ad agency Hyundai could turn there company into the performance bargain company with on two years.
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I like Scion because the brand itself is fun. Parts are cheap and plentiful, the community is decent, and the gas mileage is pretty good too. However, you're right... there's nothing to bridge to in the Toyota brand. The new Matrix is ugly, and they offer nothing as far as fun cars go. I wouldn't mind a RWD IS250 with a 6-speed though.
My next car will be a Mini. I think I've pretty much made that my post-graduation goal.
Mellow Yellow MCS with a black roof.
My next car will be a Mini. I think I've pretty much made that my post-graduation goal.
Mellow Yellow MCS with a black roof.
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neone know what size tires these may be i like the look they have.....are they stock tires stretched?
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