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Old 05-03-2012 | 07:05 PM
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105bhp more than a BRZ and they added a $2,000 Track Package to the Mustang.

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Old 05-03-2012 | 07:19 PM
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So 100+ more hp only gets you <1.5s around the track. And everyone that reviews this car comes to the same conclusion. Yet persistent clowns will try and say it's a terrible car. Hilarious.
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So 100+ more hp only gets you <1.5s around the track. And everyone that reviews this car comes to the same conclusion. Yet persistent clowns will try and say it's a terrible car. Hilarious.
Don't forget....100+hp AND $2,000 Track Package.

LoL...so, I throw a set of capable tires onto the FR-S and I'm good then... Don't even have to be track tires, just some Summer performance tires and it will run better at a LONG Straight away track than a 2013 V6 Stang.

It already beat the Miata.
Old 05-03-2012 | 07:52 PM
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Its funny the same basic suspension mods we do to the tC will probably make this car rediculous. 8-9" wheels, proper sized tires, sways, strut bars, and springs. I can't wait.
Old 05-03-2012 | 08:37 PM
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Someone pointed out in another thread.....The Chart at the beginning....EPIC FAIL. It list the BRZ has being a Flat-Four Turbocharged car...lol
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Yeah I agree, I find it funny how everyone clowns on it and whatnot saying it's underpowered blah blah blah. 200hp -- 173whp. Well balanced, performs well. Could it have more power? Sure. But it is a Toyota after all, and they historically tend to be more conservative.

I'd rather have a great car platform to build on then something that costs way too much. Being in the same conversation as a Mustang, Porsche etc seems like a good place to be.
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i'd like to see it do it again with some better tires just like travis said.
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So a V6 Pony beat it? Hahaha. Same suspension mods on the mustang will walk it even more... what's your point?
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It took 100+ hp plus a $2k track package to give it a <1.5 second advantage. The BRZ is stock, no add ons. Not to mention it's on 7" wheels with Prius tires vs. the Mustang on at least 8-9s with Pirellis. You really can't be that dense.
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^Haha, yeah dude obviously doesn't get it.

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/0...cing-released/

Looks like it was a Premium V6 with the added Performance Package to get it to 30K. It def needs all it can to get that heavier weight around.
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And what of a non Track Performance packaged Mustang....wouldn't that still be similarly priced to a BRZ/FR-S? Would like to see that one.

Notice how the reviewers STILL preferred a BRZ over the V6 Stang. So, if you are a numbers guy then you can go with a Mustang. But if you want to feel connected to the road, then you would be in a BRZ/FR-S.

Much so like the Miata. The BRZ/FR-S is a better Miata. It kinda fills that gap for people who don't want a massive car like the American cars usually are, and who don't want to be in a rather impractical Miata for daily driving.

I can not picture myself ever in a Miata for one. But to think if my bro wanted to ride with me to an event, he is riding in a Miata with me....ummm...yea, that's...ah um.......nevermind. Feel the same when it comes to an S2k with the top down and watching two guys in it. By yourself, or with your chic cool. Not with your bro though lol..


Performance Package for V6:

-strut tower brace
-larger front sway bar and SVT rear sway bar
-unique front springs
-unique front and rear calipers with performance friction pads
-19-inch painted al wheels
-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
-Unique traction control programming
-Gloss black side mirrors
-3.31 rear axle
-Unique engine cover (MT only)


1.2sec lap time difference can be made up in tires alone. Pirelli P-Zero the BRZ and we are seeing it run the same lap time as a Performance Pack upgraded V6 Stang (that some say that because it's options from the factory, it's not considered modded). I'll take TRD options for the FR-S, and say it's stock too if that's the case then.
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Stock pony starts at 22K trav just to play devils advocate.
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Performance Package for V6:

-strut tower brace
-larger front sway bar and SVT rear sway bar
-unique front springs
-unique front and rear calipers with performance friction pads
-19-inch painted al wheels
-255/40R19 summer tires (Pirelli P-Zero)
-Unique traction control programming
-Gloss black side mirrors
-3.31 rear axle
-Unique engine cover (MT only)

NOT BAD for 2K.
you would pay that plus more for just a toyota/scion WHEEL PACKAGE....
Old 05-04-2012 | 05:27 PM
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That mustang is hideous.... wouldnt be caught dead in the car. I'd rather drive a baby blue miata convertible.

LOL @ Prius tires keeping up with Pirelli
SMH @ Stang
Old 05-04-2012 | 05:55 PM
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The video pretty much sums it up; on the freeway the Mustang will own, but at the AutoX the FR-S/BRZ will punch it's ticket but good.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Yea but a stock Mustang...:?
Dunno. I was just saying that because the derp would say it.

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I agree if it was just a base V6 the BRZ would have a better time. Even in the review with the performance package Mustang the driver still complained of body roll. Still after all they say if you want a driver's car the go for the BRZ.
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Originally Posted by Jon
I can't do anything but laugh at you, dude.
Be prepared to be laughed at by V6 Pony owners now that we proved that the v6 pony will be faster not only on the straights but on a track as well. You'll be seeing their taillights on and off the track. So what can this car do besides be overpriced, slow, and have a ton of mindless drones following it.
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Originally Posted by EvilMonkey07
Be prepared to be laughed at by V6 Pony owners now that we proved that the v6 pony will be faster not only on the straights but on a track as well. You'll be seeing their taillights on and off the track. So what can this car do besides be overpriced, slow, and have a ton of mindless drones following it.
so about a month ago i asked you a question. i will ask it again. why do you refuse to acknowledge that this car can be made faster with minor mods? and now i must ask do you really believe that if an FR-S wouldn't be as fast with the same mods? saw bars and tires would be more than enough to shave that very minor lead. now i am not talking about adding anything other than what the mustang already has. Sways and tires would be under a grand and you'd be comparably priced to the v-6 pony.

one other thing i say to you is. let a guy who owns a v-6 mustang because at the end of the day i have the car i want and the guy in a mustang has a car that he settled for because, he couldn't afford the 5.0.


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