^^^ Rougher/stiffer than stock, other wise its not a performance upgrade and no self respecting aftermarket suspension company would produce something that would cause the car to handle worse than stock.

You might want to consider air bags, I have never been in a bagged car(cause switches are for _____es) but I hear it makes for a very soft/comfortable ride...

 

thanks for saving me $1050

 

Yuriy's. :p Body was controlled, good rigidity, steering precision and feedback were disappointing considering the chassis' potential. You can really feel the weight of the car, can't imagine anyone calling it nimble.

You're confusing performance with precision (not to mention tire performance with vehicle potential, a Kia with Advan AD08's could drop 20 seconds on a track). I have a lot of experience with Subarus where that's even more so the case. The AWD and soft stock design dishes out astounding corning speeds while giving very little feedback to the driver, and precision is only achieved through trial and error rather than the chassis communicating with the driver with precise suspension movement.

 

If you want to improve the ride comfort without sacrificing performance, buy a better set of tires. When I installed my new wheels and tires, ride quality/comfort went way up. The stock tires are a bit stiffer construction for lower rolling resistance and a little extra tread life vs. most performance tires.

 

I e-mailed KW and get spring rates for their Variant 1 setup: 340 front, 455 rear. Do you know what stock and TRD rates are?

 

Then y isnt there a company making them for comfort and form only????

 

http://www.tanabe-usa.com/s0c.asp?id=6

 

You've gotta be careful when the word comfort is used referring to coilovers. It usually means 'comfortable, for a coilover', not compared to stock.

 

I don't know much about springs but I would love coilovers to lower the car and to have comfort like Scion202 said. So since the spring rates of the tanabe are 3.4/6.3 how is that compared to the stock springs? Sorry if its a dumb question lol

 

That's 190/353 in lb/in instead of kgf/mm, which is certainly softer than KW Variant 1's 340/455. Don't know about stock.

 

We had a thread goin but 2TCornot2TC pulled all the info that was compiled about the spring rates and drops.

I have no idea what stock, trd or eibach spring rates are

 

test drove today all 2012:
Audi A4
Audi A6
Nissan Maxima
Lexus IS250
Mercedes C300 Sport



bottom line is that naturally aspirated cars feel much better and the power delivery is amazing.

Nissan/C300 Sport were the best. both naturally aspirated engines. and feel super fast. Maxima is 3.6L 295/265 hp/tq. Merc is 3.0L 228/221.

A6 - too heavy and big, its has 3.0L supercharged engine 330/325 and yet it doesnt feel like it at all. The Audi's comfort and dynamic modes felt very similar to each other

A4(____ers dont let test drive S4) - almost no head room, not fast enough even though it has 250ft-lbs for torque. not quiet and not that comfy

IS250 - no head room at all even with the seat all the way down. I wanted IS 350 but they didnt have it. IS250 has 220/185 hp/tq so it felt slower than my scion but given no head room I wont be trying out IS350 anyway. the ride was quieter than A4 and Maxima but stiffer than I expected

Overall maxima was the fastest and had the BEST SEATS but stiff suspension and not very quiet.
Merc was quitest and most comfortable(and that was with 19" wheels!!). It had plenty head room and it was the only car in which I felt "in total control". Id much rather have the C350 which has 3.6L 302/273 hp/tq but it comes only in rear wheel drive and. The guy asked me if i wanted to test drive it but I declined because I did not wanna fall in love with it haha.

Im pretty sure if you try C350 Sport you will be blown away.
Also the Merc has the best stance of all cars. It has almost no wheel gap and sits nice and low. It looks the best as well with super aggressive grille and huge 3 point star

 

Have you considered trying any Infinitis? I test drove a 08 G35S and was blown away.

 

haha yeah after Nissan, I will definitely try G37x and then maybe Cadi and Acura just

 

Got a friend that just bought a Genesis coup touring edition.... its fast...

 

haha i can imagine.

Im looking into sedans up to 185" in length with all wheel drive plus super quiet and comfy ride with sporty feel

 

keeping the tc2 or trading it in?

 

its far out haha. it'll prolly take $1k to revert to state that dealership will accept it in and selling it will be hard. It will depend on LOTS of things

I may keep it til im 80 haha

 

anyone has any experience with snow tires with RWD in the snow and icy conditions?

it is a reliable combination?

 

It is, but the interior makes a Honda Fit look like a C-class.