Notices
Scion FR-S Owner's Lounge
Scion FR-S Forum - The Scion sport coupe

tC -> FR-S.....and I am back!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-27-2012, 06:19 PM
  #1601  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
stevenray7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 143
Default

any pics of it installed? and i think 3 inches all around is the max cuz the tein s techs are 1.5" Front & 1.8 and thats just lowering springs. so the max on these are 3 inches
stevenray7 is offline  
Old 06-27-2012, 08:40 PM
  #1602  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by stevenray7
any pics of it installed? and i think 3 inches all around is the max cuz the tein s techs are 1.5" Front & 1.8 and thats just lowering springs. so the max on these are 3 inches

i know of the stechs drop, im just saying I will let you guys know exactly what the drop range is since clearly in the rears its not 3" range as they claimed
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-27-2012, 10:57 PM
  #1603  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

just got off the phone with Megan Racing, apparently the thread length is not linearly proportional to the drop

so you have to set your own baseline and then measure the drop and go from there
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 12:06 AM
  #1604  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
stevenray7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 143
Default

well cant wait to see how ur car looks when u install the megan coils
stevenray7 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 12:25 AM
  #1605  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Since there r way too many dips around here ill only be dropping it .5 front and 1" rear but I will drop it to the lowest just to see how it looks. When I'm back in NH ill drop it prolly 1.5 front and 2 rear


Btw I don’t care about being close to the ground, what I find attractive is 0 wheel gap, that was one of the reasons why I bought bigger tires. My tires reduce the wheel gap by 0.2”!
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 12:34 AM
  #1606  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
stevenray7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 143
Default

man if u can take pics of the lowest drop if u can. i wanna see how the megan racing coils look when its maxed out. if its not a good drop i might as well stick with the tein s techs.
stevenray7 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 01:49 AM
  #1607  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Kyleptrsn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 292
Default

I think you may have just found me my next purchase... But only if they look good with zero wheel gap. I'm like you in that respect.
Kyleptrsn1 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 01:56 AM
  #1608  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by stevenray7
man if u can take pics of the lowest drop if u can. i wanna see how the megan racing coils look when its maxed out. if its not a good drop i might as well stick with the tein s techs.
haha yeah lowest drop on these will look STUPID low and yes I will
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 02:52 AM
  #1609  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

parking next to Zs.....

Name:  554e5036.jpg
Views: 38
Size:  137.6 KB

finally got a smartphone!

bought refurbished Incredible 2

and heres the camera quality

Name:  9cd9cae7.jpg
Views: 35
Size:  196.7 KB
Name:  52631e7d.jpg
Views: 38
Size:  190.0 KB
Name:  7de8aaac.jpg
Views: 49
Size:  184.0 KB
Name:  0ca041ab.jpg
Views: 33
Size:  161.1 KB
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 03:26 AM
  #1610  
Senior Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
GAPS11TC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 252
Default

Beautiful, how do you keep the black looking so fresh? Lol
GAPS11TC is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 03:34 AM
  #1611  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by GAPS11TC
Beautiful, how do you keep the black looking so fresh? Lol
it was actually dusty as ____, I guess the camera aint good enough to pick up the dirt lol

but it mostly California...it doesnt rain here but if u saw my car in person ud see a ton of scratches since paint is crap. I havent waxed it since october and 2 weeks ago was first time since then I just use california duster to sweep off dust/pollen

Amazon Amazon



Originally Posted by Scion202

btw i puke in my mouth a bit every time I look at this disgusting wheel gap
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 05:29 AM
  #1612  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

I just made a quick video about the coils and whats in the box


Name:  cd40c837.jpg
Views: 39
Size:  168.9 KB
Name:  6f4bfaf1.jpg
Views: 43
Size:  109.4 KB
Name:  5e8db665.jpg
Views: 32
Size:  223.8 KB
Name:  8c9708d6.jpg
Views: 50
Size:  129.2 KB
Name:  5b8787c4.jpg
Views: 38
Size:  156.0 KB
Name:  0b3e2c5f.jpg
Views: 34
Size:  258.4 KB
Name:  b8e0ae85.jpg
Views: 31
Size:  249.6 KB
Name:  4595185c.jpg
Views: 36
Size:  225.5 KB
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 06:13 AM
  #1613  
Banned
SL Member
 
2tCornot2tC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,075
Default

The height adjustment is very predictable front-to-rear. Since the front is a Macpherson strut and is pointing to the center of your contact patch therefore that will be 1:1 (minus the cosine of the angle the struts are leaning at). Now take a look at your rear suspension…if you are very astute, you will notice that the spring is just about at the center of the lower suspension arm…swivel-point-to-swivel-point. That is the ratio you will get when you set the ride height…that is why they have only half the range of the front. All is good…You will get twice the change at the rear wheel from the “lever-arm” action. I also think that Megan screwed up…all the other manufacturers have twice the spring rate rear-to-front – and that “lever-action” is the reason for it. And that is about right for the car from a dynamics point of view. Megan does not! Their spring rates are identical front-to-rear. I’m going to predict that in a high speed corner when you hit a bump or a dip in the road, your car will pitch back and forth like on a hobbyhorse with Megan’s identical spring rates…well, maybe you won’t even need to be in a high speed corner. Now the manufacturers that make a true coil-over (TEIN for example) for the rear, their spring rates should be the same – the spring reacts at the end of the suspension arm therefore no “lever-action”.
2tCornot2tC is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 07:24 AM
  #1614  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by 2tCornot2tC
The height adjustment is very predictable front-to-rear. Since the front is a Macpherson strut and is pointing to the center of your contact patch therefore that will be 1:1 (minus the cosine of the angle the struts are leaning at). Now take a look at your rear suspension…if you are very astute, you will notice that the spring is just about at the center of the lower suspension arm…swivel-point-to-swivel-point. That is the ratio you will get when you set the ride height…that is why they have only half the range of the front. All is good…You will get twice the change at the rear wheel from the “lever-arm” action. I also think that Megan screwed up…all the other manufacturers have twice the spring rate rear-to-front – and that “lever-action” is the reason for it. And that is about right for the car from a dynamics point of view. Megan does not! Their spring rates are identical front-to-rear. I’m going to predict that in a high speed corner when you hit a bump or a dip in the road, your car will pitch back and forth like on a hobbyhorse with Megan’s identical spring rates…well, maybe you won’t even need to be in a high speed corner. Now the manufacturers that make a true coil-over (TEIN for example) for the rear, their spring rates should be the same – the spring reacts at the end of the suspension arm therefore no “lever-action”.

"(minus the cosine of the angle the struts are leaning at)"

angle between the vertical and coilover? then it results in something close to ~0.8-0.9" which seems pretty close



TEIN is not a "true coilover" in the rear, same setup. separate spring and shock for the basic and street kits

this shows 6kg springs as you mentioned:
http://www.tein.com/tech_info/q30.html

this shows the construction of the rear on the last page(pg10)
http://www.tein.com/tech_info/inst/2q30u.pdf


have you seen them in person? how did you come to the conclusion that rear is a true coilover?

we know for sure that the basic kit has separate spring and shock from here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=47

Last edited by Scion202; 06-28-2012 at 07:40 AM.
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 07:39 AM
  #1615  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
johndeo11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 1,037
Default

when will it be installed? lolz cant wait for the review. hahahaha
johndeo11 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 07:43 AM
  #1616  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by johndeo11
when will it be installed? lolz cant wait for the review. hahahaha
i may do it in steps. one night front and rear the other.

Im just kinda scared replacing the shock in the rear since ive never done it and not sure if i need to keep any of the stock pieces
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 07:44 AM
  #1617  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
johndeo11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 1,037
Default

it was easy. lolz installing back the rotors to the arm is much harder. ahaahaha
johndeo11 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 07:53 AM
  #1618  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by johndeo11
it was easy. lolz installing back the rotors to the arm is much harder. ahaahaha
"easy" not telling me much haha

did u keep any of the old parts or use only the ones that came with ksport?
Scion202 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 08:07 AM
  #1619  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
johndeo11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 1,037
Default

used all that came with ksport...
well, at first try it was kinda hard... i just followed the instructions that came with TRD springs.
johndeo11 is offline  
Old 06-28-2012, 08:22 AM
  #1620  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Scion202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,102
Default

Originally Posted by johndeo11
used all that came with ksport...
well, at first try it was kinda hard... i just followed the instructions that came with TRD springs.
but there isnt anything about removing the shocks...

im talking about the top part only
Scion202 is offline  


Quick Reply: tC -> FR-S.....and I am back!



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:01 AM.