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Old 06-29-2006, 07:27 PM
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Wow -- amazing vid — good find.
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:51 PM
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guys pricing will be allot less......i just had a board meeting with the guys from smart today and our UAG, United Auto Group will hold the distributorship for this brand in the United States.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:10 AM
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uhhh I hate to be the one to spill the beans but have you guys seen I honda insight? 70hp 60's mpg honda is killing it this year if they already havn't. smart won't work in the US
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:29 AM
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we'll see.....they said the same thing about scion when we started now we are doing 200 plus scions sold per month
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:41 AM
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Watch this video at 4:20 seconds - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-...elated&search= - and look at how the SEATS you would be sitting in, in the OTHER car hit the WINDSHIELD - the chassis flex on the smart isn't that bad in collision, it looks like the seats only flex under their own weight/support.

I dunno about you, but I value my face.... The smart car is a good idea, but it has everything completely backwards. High MPG and small cars are supposed to be affordable. "green" doesn't always have to cost Green. It looks like a well engineered machine, but I see it as a rich man's toy, or a die-hard commuter's car for someone for some reason or another can do nothing but live in a wall to wall city.

I'll take my faster, more agile, less expensive, safer, more comfortable and roomier TC and park 10 blocks away instead.

EDIT: Also look at this video where they actually use crash dummies, and you can see what I mean - the paint on the dummies is simulating trauma areas to the body - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02egh...elated&search=
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:23 PM
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It will sell for less than $15,000.

http://<a href="http://seattlepi.nws...ource=mypi</a>

Smart will sell the next generation of its "fortwo" model, which has been popular in Europe. It gets an average of 40 miles per gallon in combined city-highway driving and will sell for less than $15,000. The company says it can get up to 69 mpg on the highway.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:06 AM
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I don't get it -

The ford dealer had these like 6 years ago,,,,

but Chrysler AG is talking about how it's all new to the USA.

that's such crap.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:12 AM
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maybe you're just thinking of the festiva? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure we've never had Smart's.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:06 PM
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I like how everyone went out and bought Huge SUVs and now that gas prices went so high, everyones trading them in for these tiny hydrid cars.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:40 AM
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wow you would get seriously OWNED by any other car if you got in a crash with a smart car.
My box could probably demolish one of those stupid little insignificant go carts. Seriously, you would get MESSED UP if you were in that smart car at 70 mph. Why dont we get frickin golf carts hahahaha
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:45 AM
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I dunno about you, but I value my face....
hahahahahaha i do too
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:24 AM
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The photo shown in this thread - the second boxy one - is that the proposed redesign for the American market? Way too bad if it is, because it is totally non-cute. The egg shape of the current Smart car is part of the apeal.

I checked one of these out recently while in England, and they are pretty nice. Though I understand only the gasoline version will be initally introduced to the US, so gas mileage will be about 40 overall, so not better than say a Yaris. Again too bad, as the diesel model gets like 60 mpg.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:15 PM
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great commuter car plus you can perpendicular park on the city street. there is no current vehicle in the u.s. lineup that is a direct competition to it. mpg=60! better than a hybrid and fun to look at too.

put me down for one (a targa top one!)
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:49 AM
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ok i just saw one on the highway, im sorry but this is the funnyest car ive ever seen, and i would NOT be seen in one
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Originally Posted by MacMaster
wow you would get seriously OWNED by any other car if you got in a crash with a smart car.
My box could probably demolish one of those stupid little insignificant go carts. Seriously, you would get MESSED UP if you were in that smart car at 70 mph. Why dont we get frickin golf carts hahahaha
What car wouldn't mess you up at 70mph into a cement wall?? The thing held up pretty damn well, and they have pretty decent safety ratings. You'd have to see how the thing fairs at different speeds before you really tell how it performs in an accident.

My worry? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02egh...elated&search=

Scary.
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Old 07-03-2006, 04:02 PM
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These are EURO NCAP results for 1999 and 2000 forTwo:
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...p?id1=1&id2=29
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...p?id1=1&id2=69

The Smart in the vid rolling around after the accident doesn't look safe. By then an 18-wheeler would hit it like a soccer ball.

Smart could make an affortable supermini while maintaining modern comforts. For example the old Toyota 1MZFE engine cost more to manufacture than the more powerful and efficient 2GRFE. BTW, the Euro is worth more than the US Dollar. This may keep prices high unless they want to take a hit. Give us the Toyota Aygo.
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Old 07-03-2006, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Keitaro
Give us the Toyota Aygo.
Agreed!
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:37 PM
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Leggo my Aygo.
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:39 PM
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For those who own, or have test driven the ForTwo, is there any truth in Consumer Reports' complaints regarding the transmission?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...-406/index.htm

"The six-speed transmission can operate automatically or be shifted manually without a clutch. In either mode, the transmission-shift quality is quite poor, causing the car to lurch forward and back, bobbling occupants' heads. Further, the shifts are slow."
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:45 PM
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well its a clutchless stick ........you just have to understand how to use it
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