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Old 02-08-2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WheelSee
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nm still going
are we sure this is the actual press conference or just some rehearsal?

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it was supposed to have started at 9am central time which is 10 ours so i'm assuming this is it.
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Doesn't look like there is many people there...

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Originally Posted by THE_DON
Originally Posted by Car & Driver
Like the xD, the xB will feature standard stability control and six standard air bags
Told you so!

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I know a lot of people here may not like it as it might add a little to the cost, but I'm very pleased with that. I seem to be against the grain of most posts here, but this is definitely shaping up nicely to be my next car.
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and something else i just noticed. the door handels are not flush with the body...i loved that about the xB.
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Sorry - I can not get over the new front end. I agree the modified cars look MUCH nicer - but every pic I see of the stock model is just plain awful.
Makes even the new Bb look OK.
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You know what would be funny, if they were like

j/k! these are not the cars!

And then showed us the real gen 2's...

one can dream right? lol...
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Originally Posted by YourNameHere
from that shot of the gauges it seems they totally went the opposite direction for the interior...isnt the xB suppose to be about minimalism? 4 gauges. big air vents. looks to be alot of fake aluminum. eeh.
big air vents????

they are just like what we have now...
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Originally Posted by YourNameHere
and something else i just noticed. the door handels are not flush with the body...i loved that about the xB.
yeah...the handles are like the tC has...pull through handles...

more secure than the flush xB ones we have now...being the victim of theft, i'd go for more secure...
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Originally Posted by Townsend_xB
I have stayed out of commenting but I think its my turn for a soap box.

All of us at one point or another have _____ed on here about something we dislike on the existing cars. A lot of us have even gotten to speak with Scion reps at car shows and Scion events. And I am sure Scion checks out this site.

That being said....

1. Many have complained about the engine, so Scion gave us a new one.
2. Many have said they disliked getting rock chips, so Scion's more redesigned and somewhat aerodynamic front end happened.
3. A lot of people liked the t2B so its not a surprise the styling cues came from it.
4. Just like the xB1 wasn't an ideal designed car for all people, the xB2 isn't an ideal car for all people.

So it seems to me that for once a car company looked seriously at what its current customers thought, liked and posted about, and made some changes. Regardless of what we think in the here and now, I am sure that Scion is still going to back the Scion Community as a whole like they have.

Someone mentioned on these twenty some pages that they felt Toyota had abandoned us xB1 owners by moving to this design. I hardly think that because I am pretty sure that parts for our cars will still be available for quite a long time thanks to the Yaris, and Toyota has a reputation for longevity in thier vehicles.

Would I have been happier had the xB2 had a new name? Yes. Am I going to get rid of my xB1? No.

Am I going to buy an xB2? Yes, I cancelled an FJ so I could buy it when I came back from Miami. As much as I love my xB I do need something a bit bigger and with more power for the daily commute, and this will fit the bill much better.

So with that I am off my soap box.

What moves you?

Edited for a spelling correction.
+1 you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you.

I cant help but notice that most dont like it, and thats your choice. Scion came to the states to make a name for themselves, and did it loud and proud. The xB1 was all the rage, either take it or leave it kinda sales. Scion has now improved on that design and given the public what they wanted. Scion has taken one giant step forward IMO.

I cant help but to think how many of you out there in cyber land would have traded your current box in for another. So many here on SL are the younger crowd and to buy a new box would only put them upside down with a trade for new. Everyone can carry on on how Scion abandond you and you now going to turn you back on them. So be it. I think that Scion has done their research and are fully prepared to caiter towards NEW buyers. Only a small few like myself will trade in their xB1 for the new and improved xB2. Doesnt make me a bad person, or a trader.
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Originally Posted by CBSIMONSEZ

+1 you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you.

I cant help but notice that most dont like it, and thats your choice. Scion came to the states to make a name for themselves, and did it loud and proud. The xB1 was all the rage, either take it or leave it kinda sales. Scion has now improved on that design and given the public what they wanted. Scion has taken one giant step forward IMO.

I cant help but to think how many of you out there in cyber land would have traded your current box in for another. So many here on SL are the younger crowd and to buy a new box would only put them upside down with a trade for new. Everyone can carry on on how Scion abandond you and you now going to turn you back on them. So be it. I think that Scion has done their research and are fully prepared to caiter towards NEW buyers. Only a small few like myself will trade in their xB1 for the new and improved xB2. Doesnt make me a bad person, or a trader.

+1

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Originally Posted by expertwork
I have to agree that the new xB and the T2B are incredibley similiar...although something about the xbs hood....its almost so flat that it optically looks concave where it meets the windshield.
You actually have to see the hood up close and personal. When i first saw it in Miami, i thought that there was dust on the front half of the hood. It wasnt until SuperDave pointed out that there is a dividing line about a 3rd of the way up where the hood slopes back more towards the windshield.
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CHICAGO, Feb. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Scion, from Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A.,
Inc., revealed the all-new 2008 xD five-door subcompact at a press
conference today at the 2007 Chicago Auto Show.
"The xD is a clever new take on the five-door urban subcompact, with
style and flair to match its efficiency and utility," said Mark Templin,
Scion vice president. "The xD's aggressive styling is wrapped in a small,
agile package, while its interior offers impressive details and a spacious
cabin."
New Scion Style
The xD's futuristic exterior characterizes it as a Scion with its
simple surfaces and sharp lines that flow from front to rear. Its urban
personality is communicated by its wide stance, thick muscular body,
accentuated wheel flares and large tires. Other styling cues that set the
xD apart include a long and narrow back window, and the Scion family traits
-- horizontal headlamps, an integrated rectangular lower and upper grille,
and turn signals built into the side mirrors.
Good Handling
Engineers designed the xD with a short, wide frame in mind for better
handling and comfort. In addition, the xD features an L-arm type MacPherson
strut in the front and torsion beam suspension in the rear for increased
stability and a pleasing ride.
The xD's powerful stance sits on 16-inch steel wheels and 195/60 R16
tires. Customers will be able to choose from three all-new standard wheel
covers which will also be shared with the all-new xB. The xD features front
ventilated disc and rear drum brakes.
Clean and Modern Interior
Designers focused on a clean, comfortable and futuristic interior
style. The simple dash features an instrument panel located directly in
front of the driver while the center cluster -- digital clock and HVAC and
audio controls -- flows down the center. The xD's unique, radar-like
speedometer and tachometer have been consolidated into one circular gauge
centered on the instrument panel. Indicator lamps, LCD fuel gauge and
odometer flank the centralized gauge.
The xD features front bucket seats and 60/40 fold flat rear seats for a
level cargo space. The rear seats were designed for comfort and utility as
they can slide forward and back up to six inches for additional leg room
and cargo area. In addition, they can recline ten degrees and be adjusted
into five different positions.
Storage and cargo space is aplenty in the xD. Up front, the xD has a
storage tray located beneath the steering wheel, a small box in the front
of the center console for holding portable music players or cell phones, an
upper and lower glove box, and driver's side change box. A hidden storage
space is located below the rear cargo area.
Upgraded Audio System
The xD's standard 160-watt maximum output Pioneer audio system is
focused on youth lifestyle as it features iPod connectivity and a mini-jack
port located beneath the HVAC controls for easy access. This standard head
unit integrates track, artist and album information from the iPod into a
one-line display on the head unit's screen. Connectivity is achieved by
simply plugging the iPod into a port via a connector cable, providing
outstanding sound quality through the car's stereo system and constant
power to the iPod. Music is controlled through the head unit and the
steering wheel audio control buttons. The mini-jack port allows users to
listen to their portable music collection through the xD's Pioneer
speakers.
Since many Scion customers add in-car entertainment systems to their
vehicle, the xD will come standard with rear head unit outputs allowing for
the addition of external amps to boost power to the front and rear
speakers, and subwoofers. All head unit features remain unchanged if this
feature is used.
The xD's optional premium audio system adds one more feature to the
standard head unit, the ability to download "skins" to play on the LCD
faceplate. Customers can download images, four-second video clips and
eight-second movies from Pioneer's website. In addition, Pioneer software
allows customers to burn their own images and movies onto a CD and upload
them onto the available head unit.
Both the standard and premium head units retain key Scion audio system
features such as Scion Sound Processing (SSP) where listeners can choose
from three pre-set equalizer settings, satellite radio compatibility, a
user-customizable welcome screen, MP3 and WMA capability, Automatic Sound
Leveling (ASL) and Sound Retouch Technology (SRT), which provides clearer
CD sound quality. Both systems will also feature six speakers: two tweeters
and speakers in each door panel.
Driving Performance
The xD is powered by the lively 1.8 L four-cylinder engine with dual
Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) that puts out 128
horsepower. Customers have the choice of a five-speed manual transmission
or a four-speed automatic transmission. This 2ZR-FE engine features a
roller rocker system and light weight piston for better fuel economy and a
piston cooling oil jet for better efficiency.
Standard Features
The xD comes mono spec like all Scion vehicles. Customers need to
choose exterior color and transmission type, while the only factory option
is Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC). The xD
comes with generous and upscale standard features including power steering,
windows, door locks and mirrors; remote keyless entry; air conditioning;
four-wheel anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD)
and Brake Assist (BA); driver and front passenger dual stage airbags; front
seat-mounted side airbags; front and rear side curtain airbags; first-aid
kit; a tire pressure monitor system and tilt steering wheel with audio
controls.
All Scion models come with complimentary factory-recommended
maintenance services at the first 5,000 mile and 10,000 mile intervals, to
be performed by an authorized Scion or Toyota dealership.
Color Palette
The xD will have high-quality dark charcoal interior fabric and will be
available in six exterior colors, Super White, Silver Streak Mica, Black
Sand Pearl, Magnetic Gray Metallic, Barcelona Red Metallic and Nautical
Blue Metallic.
Warranty
All Scion models feature a 36-month/36,000 mile basic new-vehicle
limited warranty that applies to all components other than normal wear and
maintenance items.
Additional 60-month warranties cover the powertrain for 60,000 miles
and corrosion with no mileage limitation.
Public Web site: http://www.scion.com



2008 SCION xD PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

DIMENSIONS (inches)

Overall length: 154.7

Overall width: 67.9

Overall height: 60.0

Wheelbase: 96.9


ENGINE

Type: 1.8-liter, 4-cylinder, DOHC 16-valve EFI with VVT-i

Bore and Stroke: 3.17 x 3.48 inches

Displacement: 1,798 cc

Compression Ratio: 10.0:1

Horsepower: 128 hp @ 6,000 rpm

Torque: 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm


TIRES AND WHEELS

Wheel Size: 16 x 6 inches

Tire Size: 195/60 R16

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20030501/TOYLOGO )



SOURCE Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
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CHICAGO, Feb. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Scion, from Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A.,
Inc., unveiled the all-new 2008 xB urban utility vehicle at a press
conference today at the 2007 Chicago Auto Show. The xB was first introduced
in early 2003 for the 2004 model year and its boxy shape became iconic to
the Scion brand.
"No one in the automotive industry is as hard-wire-connected to its
owners as is Scion, and the 2008 xB is a perfect example," said Mark
Templin, Scion vice president. "We've stated in the past that we'll
probably always have a box in the Scion lineup, but our owners told us they
wanted a bigger box. They talk, we listen and we responded with a bigger
and better xB."
Distinct Scion Style
Like the previous generation xB, the all-new 2008 model was styled with
distinctiveness in mind. This aggressive new compact applies design
elements from the t2B concept vehicle that was shown at the 2005 New York
International Auto Show. These exterior styling cues include the soft
angles between its wide and flat paneling, high beltline, elongated
headlamps that wrap around the side of the vehicle, inset taillights,
rectangular grille, pronounced fenders, and single rear backup light on the
left bumper. The xB also features tinted rear windows, and turn signals
integrated into the side mirrors.
Larger Chassis for a Smooth Ride
Scion customers love to drive, so with that in mind, the overall size
was enlarged, helping to create a more exciting driving experience.
Engineers increased the wheelbase by four inches, the overall length by a
foot, the overall width by almost three inches and decreased overall height
more than an inch to give the xB a more comfortable ride.
The xB also receives 16-inch steel wheels, an inch larger than the
previous generation. Customers will be able to choose from three all-new
standard wheel covers which, will also be shared with the all-new xD. The
xB also stops with larger brakes thanks to the 10.83-inch ventilated discs
in the front and 10.98-inch disc brakes in the rear which are more than two
inches bigger than the previous generation.
In addition to the wider wheelbase, the xB's smooth ride can be
attributed to its McPherson strut front and rear torsion beam suspension.
Interior Comfort and Design
The xB's design team aimed for a lounge-like interior that met the
comfort and lifestyle needs of the customer. The versatile interior
provides 29.1 cubic feet of cargo area behind the rear seats, an increase
of nearly eight cubic feet from the previous generation xB. For added
convenience, the 60/40 split rear seats fold flat, providing a spacious and
flat cargo floor, allowing the driver to haul larger loads more easily. In
addition, the front seats fully recline for increased cargo space or
relaxation.
Interior storage is abundant with a driver's convenience tray, a glove
box, a console box and front door storage. A fixed tray is located beneath
the rear seats for hidden storage and can accommodate small items like
magazines, cameras, laptops, cell phone chargers and CDs.
A series of sleek circular gauges, including a combination meter, are
centered on the dash. The combination meter allows drivers to toggle
through the clock, outside temperature, instantaneous MPG, average MPG,
distance to empty, or the average speed. Upon starting the engine, "xB"
flashes on the combination meter before information is displayed. The deep
orange display gauges allow for better visibility day and night.
Metal-tone trim accents the dash and surrounds the shifter which is
mounted on the lower dash. A driver's right armrest was added for comfort.
Upgraded Audio System
The xB's standard 160-watt maximum output Pioneer audio system is
focused on youth lifestyle as it features iPod connectivity and a mini-jack
port. This standard head unit integrates track, artist and album
information from the iPod into a one-line display on the head unit's
screen. Connectivity is achieved by simply plugging the iPod into a port
via a connector cable, providing outstanding sound quality through the
car's stereo system and constant power to the iPod. Music is controlled
through the head unit and the steering wheel audio control buttons. The
mini-jack port allows users to listen to their portable music collection
through the xB's Pioneer speakers.
Since many Scion customers add in-car entertainment systems to their
vehicle, the xB now comes standard with rear head unit outputs, allowing
for additional external amps to boost power to the front and rear speakers,
and subwoofers.
The xB's optional premium audio system adds one more feature to the
standard head unit, the ability to download "skins" to play on the LCD
faceplate. Customers can download images, four-second video clips and
eight-second movies from Pioneer's website. In addition, Pioneer software
allows customers to burn their own images and movies onto a CD and upload
them onto the available head unit.
Both the standard and premium head units retain key Scion audio system
features such as Scion Sound Processing (SSP) where listeners can choose
from three pre-set equalizer settings, satellite radio compatibility, a
user-customizable welcome screen, MP3 and WMA capability, Automatic Sound
Leveling (ASL) and Sound Retouch Technology (SRT), which provides clearer
CD sound quality. Both systems feature six speakers: two tweeters and
speakers in each door panel.
More Performance
More powerful than its predecessor, the all-new xB is equipped with a
2.4 L dual overhead-cam four-cylinder engine with Variable Valve Timing
with intelligence (VVT-i), the same engine found on the tC. The engine
produces 158 horsepower, 55 more than the previous generation. Customers
will have a choice of either a five-speed manual transmission or a
four-speed automatic with sequential shifting, a first for automatic
four-speeds in the Scion or Toyota line-up.
Standard Features
Like all Scion vehicles, the xB is mono spec. Customers only need to
choose exterior color and transmission type. The xB comes with generous and
upscale standard features including power steering, windows, door locks and
mirrors; remote keyless entry; air conditioning; four-wheel anti-lock
brakes (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist
(BA); driver and front passenger dual stage airbags; front seat-mounted
side airbags; front and rear side curtain airbags; Vehicle Stability
Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC); first-aid kit; and tilt
steering wheel with audio controls. All Scion models come with
complimentary factory-recommended maintenance services at the first 5,000
mile and 10,000 mile intervals, to be performed by an authorized Scion or
Toyota dealership.
Colors
The exterior color palette for the new xB includes Super White, Classic
Silver Metallic, Black Sand Pearl, Nautical Blue Metallic, Blackberry Crush
Metallic and Hypnotic Teal Mica. All xBs will feature high-quality dark
charcoal interior fabric.
Warranty
All Scion models feature a 36-month/36,000 mile basic new-vehicle
limited warranty that applies to all components other than normal wear and
maintenance items. Additional 60-month warranties cover the powertrain for
60,000 miles and corrosion with no mileage limitation.
Public Web site: http://www.scion.com



2008 SCION xB PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

DIMENSIONS (inches)

Overall length: 167.3

Overall width: 69.3

Overall height: 62.6

Wheelbase: 102.4


ENGINE

Type: 2.4-liter, 4-cylinder, DOHC 16-valve EFI with VVT-i

Bore and Stroke: 3.48 x 3.78 inches

Displacement: 2,362 cc

Compression Ratio: 9.8:1

Horsepower: 158 hp @ 6,000 rpm

Torque: 162 lb.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm


TIRES AND WHEELS

Wheel Size: 16 x 6.5 inches

Tire Size: P205/55 R16

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it gained 12" in length...

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the xd still isn't getting my attention enougjh to trade in my xa for it... but the trd version of the xb looks alright. love the interion guage setup though. just don't like the electronic speedometer. much more room in the back with the rear seats folded down. but i bet the trd pack will make a $17000 cost $22000.


only item swaying my interest for the xb..... ..... ..... ..... ..... supercharger!!!
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Originally Posted by CBSIMONSEZ
Originally Posted by Townsend_xB
I have stayed out of commenting but I think its my turn for a soap box.

All of us at one point or another have _____ed on here about something we dislike on the existing cars. A lot of us have even gotten to speak with Scion reps at car shows and Scion events. And I am sure Scion checks out this site.

That being said....

1. Many have complained about the engine, so Scion gave us a new one.
2. Many have said they disliked getting rock chips, so Scion's more redesigned and somewhat aerodynamic front end happened.
3. A lot of people liked the t2B so its not a surprise the styling cues came from it.
4. Just like the xB1 wasn't an ideal designed car for all people, the xB2 isn't an ideal car for all people.

So it seems to me that for once a car company looked seriously at what its current customers thought, liked and posted about, and made some changes. Regardless of what we think in the here and now, I am sure that Scion is still going to back the Scion Community as a whole like they have.

Someone mentioned on these twenty some pages that they felt Toyota had abandoned us xB1 owners by moving to this design. I hardly think that because I am pretty sure that parts for our cars will still be available for quite a long time thanks to the Yaris, and Toyota has a reputation for longevity in thier vehicles.

Would I have been happier had the xB2 had a new name? Yes. Am I going to get rid of my xB1? No.

Am I going to buy an xB2? Yes, I cancelled an FJ so I could buy it when I came back from Miami. As much as I love my xB I do need something a bit bigger and with more power for the daily commute, and this will fit the bill much better.

So with that I am off my soap box.

What moves you?

Edited for a spelling correction.
+1 you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you.

I cant help but notice that most dont like it, and thats your choice. Scion came to the states to make a name for themselves, and did it loud and proud. The xB1 was all the rage, either take it or leave it kinda sales. Scion has now improved on that design and given the public what they wanted. Scion has taken one giant step forward IMO.

I cant help but to think how many of you out there in cyber land would have traded your current box in for another. So many here on SL are the younger crowd and to buy a new box would only put them upside down with a trade for new. Everyone can carry on on how Scion abandond you and you now going to turn you back on them. So be it. I think that Scion has done their research and are fully prepared to caiter towards NEW buyers. Only a small few like myself will trade in their xB1 for the new and improved xB2. Doesnt make me a bad person, or a trader.
*looks up* yeah that's a long quote, but count me in as +2. I'm sure if I search the forums (and I wasn't too lazy) I don't think I'll find more than maybe a few people saying "the xB has alot of power" maybe you'll hear sufficient, but not alot, so they added... from what I saw above, a digital dash? DEFINATELY welcome, I dunno about you, but I like the know my EXACT speed, although I am glad they kept the tach as analog, it's just funner (yes I know funner isn't a real word, grammer ****'s... keep the dogs at bay). Like the t2b? alot of styling cues from there. I've heard comparisons with the element and the HHR, and to be honest, the t2B had ALOT of styling cues from there.









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It doesn't state that it has HID headlamps.......
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I just started shopping around for another xB today and plan on buying another 1st gen model before years end. the xb is an awesome ride and i have had one now for a year. I would like to have another one in case anything happens to my precious #1.
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