2008 Scion xB & xD Photos Leaked One Day Early
02-08-2007, 10:52 PM
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Well anyone who wants a PW auto xB with 18's.. let me know. I'm selling as soon as my dealer can get one of these in.
I didn't want this to happen. But, the "S-tronic" and engine were the deciding factors i held myself to so...
(But those were just my deciding factors on top of the nicer belt line, updated and smoother dash, and 4 wheel discs.. <-- all as a matter of opinion of course...)
I didn't want this to happen. But, the "S-tronic" and engine were the deciding factors i held myself to so...
(But those were just my deciding factors on top of the nicer belt line, updated and smoother dash, and 4 wheel discs.. <-- all as a matter of opinion of course...)
02-08-2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinxB
How much do you think that AVN will run from Scion? $2000?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...tailsComponent
02-08-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ProjectFusion
Originally Posted by KevinxB
How much do you think that AVN will run from Scion? $2000?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...tailsComponent
02-08-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tCTaco
Originally Posted by The_Sciontologist
Did anyone see the other pics with the TRD supercharger on the Five-Axis xB2?
02-08-2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CBSIMONSEZ
I dont know how that would be possible. When we looked at it in Miami they had the 1.8L in it. Now your telling me that they not only shoe-horned a 2.4 in it but also added the TRD SC? Hmmmmm
02-08-2007, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CBSIMONSEZ
Originally Posted by tCTaco
Originally Posted by The_Sciontologist
Did anyone see the other pics with the TRD supercharger on the Five-Axis xB2?
02-08-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PapaWhiskey
Originally Posted by mitchell
they killed it.
the design before showed such restraint.
It had a soul.
this one looks dated already.
the nose is a mess. looks more like the TC than the xb
the slots just look silly.
Like bad Anime.
The new tailgate killed the tail light integration too.
Lost the clean balance.
bummer.
I'll admit it was a tough design to update, but if miata and the beetle can be updated without compromising the soul of the car...so could the xb.
the design before showed such restraint.
It had a soul.
this one looks dated already.
the nose is a mess. looks more like the TC than the xb
the slots just look silly.
Like bad Anime.
The new tailgate killed the tail light integration too.
Lost the clean balance.
bummer.
I'll admit it was a tough design to update, but if miata and the beetle can be updated without compromising the soul of the car...so could the xb.
A box on the other hand is a box. You can't change much. Squared corners cannot be changed much, because if you do, it's no longer a square, and no longer a box. It's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's no way Scion could have made any significant changes that would have been accepted by the xB purist. Nor would they have been able to continue to sell the car with no updates. Interest would have slowly waned.
The box shape is only one way of keeping the integrity of the design.
You can even soften the box and update the design without compromising important elements like the tail light bulge that runs the length of the car.
Or the grill/ headlight integration.
or the balance of the hood and the rest of the car.
or the horizontal themes in the nose
proportions need not change.
Here is an example of what I'm talking about
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02-09-2007, 01:09 AM
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I took some time to read through this thread this thread
when the t2B concept came out. What I found funny is the fact that responses were all over the map for the t2B also:
It was also funny to hear some of the predictions:
Although I agree that the tC looks nothing like CCX:
I’d say the xB2 looks much more like the t2B:
Infact, I think it is one of the few production cars that retained much of the feel of the concept (minus the interior of course).
I’d say JasonH hit it right on the head!
Raul, I think your right on with number #5, and I could not say it any better than #6.
Good job Scion, you’ve created another off beat car that some will love and some will hate. You’ve listened to your target audience and you’ve created a car that will fit a wider range car owner’s lifestyles.
I think you have another winner on your hands.
when the t2B concept came out. What I found funny is the fact that responses were all over the map for the t2B also:
Originally Posted by Darkness
Iwould hardly call it a concept for an all new car, it just looks like a futurized xB, and I am not a fan of it
Originally Posted by RS1_01188
I like it. It's very Scion to me.
It was also funny to hear some of the predictions:
Originally Posted by TokyoRaver
"The car is not -- repeat, is not -- a candidate for production. Bolain said Scion they created the project as a way to deliver the "element of surprise" that Scion has become known for."
Shtoooops.... guess we can all forget about buying one.
Shtoooops.... guess we can all forget about buying one.
Originally Posted by randode
IF scion makes he T2B, it will look nothing like the concept. Remember the CCX? The tC is a completely different animal.
I’d say the xB2 looks much more like the t2B:
Infact, I think it is one of the few production cars that retained much of the feel of the concept (minus the interior of course).
Originally Posted by JasonH
A lot of opinions will change (and changes will be made to the concept) before it becomes a production vehicle. I did some research on the t2B and the Toyota Porte and found some interesting similarities like the snub-nose front, tall profile, large glass area, movable seats and, of course, the sliding passenger door. I have no doubt that the production t2B will keep all of those features, but will also get real-worldsized wheels, more normal looking lights and an interior more reminiscent of the current Scion models. Although Scion is saying officially that the t2B would be on a unique platform, the dimensions and engine are the same as the tC. I would not be surprised if the t2B and tC end up being as similar as the xA and xB.
I’d say JasonH hit it right on the head!
Originally Posted by avus
i like this concept...
for the simple fact that it is what we've been commenting on the scionlife forums since scion first came out…
5) the interior docking station -- Scion asked in different polls on this site what upgrades/features we wanted in our audio systems -- seems they listened
6) exterior styling -- glad the design is polarizing. the last thing Scion needed was another 'safe' design like the tC. the box should always instigate a reaction
thank you Scion for listening
raúl...
for the simple fact that it is what we've been commenting on the scionlife forums since scion first came out…
5) the interior docking station -- Scion asked in different polls on this site what upgrades/features we wanted in our audio systems -- seems they listened
6) exterior styling -- glad the design is polarizing. the last thing Scion needed was another 'safe' design like the tC. the box should always instigate a reaction
thank you Scion for listening
raúl...
Good job Scion, you’ve created another off beat car that some will love and some will hate. You’ve listened to your target audience and you’ve created a car that will fit a wider range car owner’s lifestyles.
I think you have another winner on your hands.
02-09-2007, 01:54 AM
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The xB2 and T2B do look similar, but note that the T2B actually stuck closer to the xB Classic idea with a very short nose and about half the overhang at either end compared to the xB2...
The xB2, in silhouette, is indistinguishable from a mothership (soccermom van/station wagon).
Tom
The xB2, in silhouette, is indistinguishable from a mothership (soccermom van/station wagon).
Tom
02-09-2007, 02:00 AM
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2008 xB Standard Features List
Hadn't seen this posted anywhere else. Forgive me if it has:
• 60/40-split, fold flat rear seat
• Air conditioning
• Amber instrument panel illumination
• Auxiliary audio input and iPod jacks
• Auto-shift door lock (A/T models)
• Cargo area under-floor storage
• Storage tray under rear seat
• Center console
• Choice of three wheel cover designs
• Chrome exhaust tip
• Cruise control
• Digital clock
• Driver and front passenger dual stage airbags SRS
• Driver and front passenger sunvisor with mirror
• Driver’s seat mounted armrest
• First-aid kit
• Four-wheel anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist
• Front seat-mounted side airbags and front and rear side curtain airbags
• Front sport bucket seats with fabric upholstery
• Headrests and three-point seatbelts in all five seating positions
• Intermittent front wiper
• Multi-reflector halogen headlamps with projector lamp for low beams
• Pioneer 160-watt maximum power AM/FM/CD head unit (MP3/WMA and satellite-tuner capable) with iPod compatibility, six speakers, Scion Sound Processing, a user-customizable welcome screen, and Sound Retouch digital equalization for clearer MP3/WMA-CD sound
• Power door locks, outside mirrors and windows with one-touch auto down on driver’s side
• Rear privacy glass
• Rear window defogger
• Rear wiper
• Remote keyless entry
• Roof mounted antenna
• Side mirrors with turn indicators
• Tachometer and trip meter
• Tilt steering wheel with audio controls
• Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control
http://pressroom.toyota.com/presstxt...Scion-xB_f.pdf
• 60/40-split, fold flat rear seat
• Air conditioning
• Amber instrument panel illumination
• Auxiliary audio input and iPod jacks
• Auto-shift door lock (A/T models)
• Cargo area under-floor storage
• Storage tray under rear seat
• Center console
• Choice of three wheel cover designs
• Chrome exhaust tip
• Cruise control
• Digital clock
• Driver and front passenger dual stage airbags SRS
• Driver and front passenger sunvisor with mirror
• Driver’s seat mounted armrest
• First-aid kit
• Four-wheel anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist
• Front seat-mounted side airbags and front and rear side curtain airbags
• Front sport bucket seats with fabric upholstery
• Headrests and three-point seatbelts in all five seating positions
• Intermittent front wiper
• Multi-reflector halogen headlamps with projector lamp for low beams
• Pioneer 160-watt maximum power AM/FM/CD head unit (MP3/WMA and satellite-tuner capable) with iPod compatibility, six speakers, Scion Sound Processing, a user-customizable welcome screen, and Sound Retouch digital equalization for clearer MP3/WMA-CD sound
• Power door locks, outside mirrors and windows with one-touch auto down on driver’s side
• Rear privacy glass
• Rear window defogger
• Rear wiper
• Remote keyless entry
• Roof mounted antenna
• Side mirrors with turn indicators
• Tachometer and trip meter
• Tilt steering wheel with audio controls
• Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control
http://pressroom.toyota.com/presstxt...Scion-xB_f.pdf
02-09-2007, 02:06 AM
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Hmm does anyone know can you run Sirius and Xm off the same headunit or do you have to have an adapter for one of them? I'm selling two vehicles and going down into this one but each one has the different sat radio.