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Old 12-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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AAAWWWW how cute! its a baby XD!
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:21 AM
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^ thats what i thought when i first saw it lol, i was like wowzers its like a mini xD lol
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Originally Posted by DarkBoxJr
So awesome. All it needs is some tiny 4-cylinder that revs to 8500 rpm and makes 200 hp.
Twin turbo rotary
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rotaries don't have cylinders
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Originally Posted by JDMJim
rotaryies don't have cylinders
really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

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rotary (plural rotaries)

My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.
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Originally Posted by RockCrawler
Originally Posted by JDMJim
rotaryies don't have cylinders
really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

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My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.
calm down....
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Originally Posted by RockCrawler
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rotaryies don't have cylinders
really genius? where would we all be without your helpful insight... and there's no "y" in rotaries - dont believe me? try looking it up... wait I'll wiki it for you because I dont think you can spell "wiki" and might not find the site: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotary < (you click on that, ok?)

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rotary (plural rotaries)

My comment was to suggest that a twin turbo rotary motor (without cylinders) would be lighter, faster, and a better alternative to a 4 cylinder motor suggested in a previous post. Thanks for playing.
How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.
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ok
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:29 PM
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No seriously, I'd like to hear your logic behind it. How would a turbo Rotary be better than a turbo I-4?
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe

How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.
Power to weight and displacement, uber-tiny motor, super lightweight, 1300cc and easily buildable to 700+ HP, but thats just my opinion. And they are extremely efficient, you are mistaking inefficient for unreliable - they dont have to reverse direction multiple times make power, but the rotor apex seals are not the most durable items in a motor design.
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We're talking about an economy car here. The kind used primarily for commuting. Take a K20A and compare it to a turbo 13B. The K20A easily makes 200hp, the turbo 13B makes about 240hp. The weight difference would probably be in favor for the K20A, considering the 13B would have tons of extra weight from all the turbo components. Now let's look at gas mileage, the #1 reason for this car. The K20A would be capable of getting 28-32 MPG, probably more. The 13B...15? 16?

Take a step back and look at the car you're talking about, you'll realize that the idea of a Rotary engine is just plain stupid.

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How would it be better? Rotary engines are extremely inefficient. Mazda is the only company that stands behind the Rotary theory, and they're barely using it.
Power to weight and displacement, uber-tiny motor, super lightweight, 1300cc and easily buildable to 700+ HP, but thats just my opinion. And they are extremely efficient, you are mistaking inefficient for unreliable - they dont have to reverse direction multiple times make power, but the rotor apex seals are not the most durable items in a motor design.
Oh yea, and 13B's aren't "easily buildable to 700+HP". The 20B is one that used in almost all of those 700+ HP applications.

And if you're going to call someone out on spelling, I suggest you learn how to use an apostrophe.
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i'm not gona get too involved, but i have to say
rotaries sound awesome! [/rice remark]
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Old 12-20-2008, 09:57 PM
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my mistake on putting the Y in rotaries. just a typo genius. And are 13B's really 1300cc's? that's been subject of debate for a long time since there are no cylinders. But whatever Wiki says must be right. the internet is always right.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe

Oh yea, and 13B's aren't "easily buildable to 700+HP". The 20B is one that used in almost all of those 700+ HP applications.

And if you're going to call someone out on spelling, I suggest you learn how to use an apostrophe.
I'm trying to make the car fun, not economical, the same way the Smart got the Hayabusa engine and made it a little rocket.

EDIT: And before you start guessing you might want to check your facts, the 13B is a more reliable platform than the 20B and they have been built to over 900hp. One of my mechanics did sidework at a buggy shop in OC that cranked out monster horsepower from 13B powerplants

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Old 12-21-2008, 07:12 PM
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well, rotaries are an interesting engine nonetheless.
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:22 PM
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Off the subject of power, and onto the safety issue.....whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?
I rode in a SMART car, took me a tenth of a second after nearly getting ___ ended by a Tahoe, to say f@ck this!
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Old 12-27-2008, 08:52 PM
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then just imagine....i can see how Scion would want this to add to the chick car segment now.

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Old 12-29-2008, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dwatts5250
whats the guarantee that if you get hit in the IQ that you will live...without severe permanent disabilities?
No guarantee at all. Neither is there a guarantee in any other Scion or, for that matter, a Hummer. It all depends upon the luck of what you hit and how you hit it.

I've been in situations where I've avoided an accident because of the nimble steering of a small car. If I had been in a larger vehicle it would have been nasty.

This "I'm safe because I'm protected by tons of metal" mentality is why we have to deal with idiots driving huge vehicles badly. Big does not equal safe.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:58 PM
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any updates?
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:15 PM
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Power Enterprise debuted SC for the iQ. hp increased from 65 to 90-100. not sure if it's worth the coin really
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