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Old 11-23-2005, 05:21 PM
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NHTSA Crash Results

Toyota Scion xB 4-DR - 18% chance of roll over. 2nd highest on the list.

4 stars on everything else except the driver side crash rating (a 3).

I haven't seen this posted here yet, apologies if it was.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:33 PM
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Yeah I know . . . I have rolled in my box several times, lol.
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My wife rolls in her's every day, while dropping phat beatz.
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:52 PM
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Holy crap, that rollover percentage sounds pretty bad...well, it is a box on wheels, but I didn't think you could get it going fast enough to roll it... :


Here are the links to detailed reviews of the tests, complete with pix of the poor Crash Test Dummies before and after. Looks like your knees are fugged if you get hit in an xB.

Front-impact
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf93/353198_web.pdf
Side-impact
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p82/361273.pdf
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That's pretty good. High chance of rollover but it still receives a 4-star like everyone else except the G6. The G6 is also wider and lower than the xB so it makes sense. BTW, the xB is the only one in that list with standard VSC or at least the cheapest vehicle with standard stability control.
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I'm too old to roll over myself or anyone or anything else LOL but I looked at the test results and I didn't find anywhere that the car was roll tested. By the way, we have 2 5 speed 2005 xBs, both with the Hotchkis stability bar under the hood and I take highway tight cloverleafs at upto 65 MPH and the sucker doesn't lean at all - I do but not the xB.

Rvie safely this holiday weekend and all the time.

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I'm assuming that since these are crash tests, they don't measure the likelihood of rolling your xB when leaning hard into a corner. Most likely it's whether or not it will get rolled over when hit by another vehicle. If that's the case, than I would imagine a side impact by one of those Ford Expeditions with a high center mass, would probably roll it pretty easily (tall and light target).

So go ahead and drive fast into the corners, just stay away from the drunk soccer mom's chatting away on the cell phone while they beat their kids in the back seat.
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it's like rolling a die, literally!
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The rollover number is a calculated probability--they don't do any rollover testing. They just take data like the weight of the vehicle, height, center of gravity, etc. and plug it into a computer program to get the rollover percent. It doesn't take into account the engineering of the vehicle--suspension design, stability control, or anything like that.
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the little asterisk says "when involved in a singe vehicle crash.."
I guess I can see that, but as far as rollover during hard maneuvering... I throw that little car into the turns and I've never even seen the stability control light come on. I drove the mountains between Newport, Tennessee and Ashville, North Carolina at a continuous 75-80 mph. I scared my passengers once or twice, but never felt like the car was unstable.
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God, no car should roll over during hard cornering. That would just be sloppy design. Roll-overs usually occur during accident avoidance, like when you slam the wheel hard and run over on a median or into a ditch or something.
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how about doing e-brake 180s? anyone ever do them in the XB?
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:33 PM
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i do when it's raining..........i've never rolled. it's actually the easiest car i've 180'd
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From
http://www.safercar.gov/Rollover/pag...tm#asaconsumer
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5. How should I interpret NHTSA's combined rollover resistance rating for model years 2004 and later?

The rollover resistance rating system for model years 2004 and later predicts a vehicle's chance of rollover in single-vehicle crashes by combining: (1) an at-rest laboratory measurement known as the Static Stability Factor (SSF) which determines how top-heavy a vehicle is, and (2) the results of a dynamic maneuvering test that determines how susceptible the vehicle is to an on-road un-tripped rollover.

About 95% of rollovers are tripped - meaning the vehicle strikes something low, such as a curb or shallow ditch, causing it to tip over. The Static Stability Factor (SSF) is specifically designed to measure this more common type of rollover and thus plays a significantly larger role in a vehicle's star rating (for model years 2004 and later) than the results of the dynamic maneuvering test.

The SSF rating and the tip or no tip results of a vehicle's dynamic maneuvering test are combined into one overall rollover star rating. A separate star rating for the individual tests is not given. However, the results for individual tests, where available, can be viewed on the test details web page for each vehicle in the 5-Star Crash Test and Rollover Ratings section of www.safercar.gov.

Vehicles with a No tip* result were not actually subjected to the dynamic test. Results from these vehicles are imputed (assigned) based on the testing of passenger cars with lower Static Stability Factors (SSFs) that did not tip up during the dynamic test. NHTSA will periodically test passenger cars to validate imputed results.

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Then, a chart and stuff follows, explaining the statistics further.
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Default My xb flipped over yesterday

My car was hit on the rear right side door and it flipped over. So what does this mean? not very safe I would guess. Now I have to deal with my crappy insurance who wont consider this a total lost. Anyone want to buy it. Does anyone have any suggestions? I bought this car June 2003 the first month it came out.[/color]
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Well, ANY car can roll if it gets hit just right. Did you get hurt in the accident?
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Old 06-02-2006, 06:53 AM
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The police officer at the scene told me he never seen a crash like this one, he mentioned that most are t-boned? My back was hurt, the seat belt worked good but I had a hard time opening the door since it much heavier trying to pop open like a hatch and climb out.
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Just flip it over, good as new!
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looks pretty damned good for rolling over.

if you slam an xB 3 or more inches I bet the rollover risk is MUCH , MUCH less.
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