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Old 02-16-2007, 03:54 PM
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(poster's note: this is nothing earth shattering, but was a very interesting article, including an interview with templin and yoshizu, among others.)

taken from: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...326/1050/rss15

Scion finds a way to tap oh-so-cool counterculture

February 13, 2007
BY TAMARA AUDI
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

CULVER CITY, Calif. -- There were no signs on the door, no greeters trumpeting the event's sponsor. There were, however, free, freshly made tacos served from a truck parked outside.

There was a DJ with a too-cool-to-be-here smirk spinning window-rattling music for Los Angeles' young, beautiful and oddly dressed at a sample sale of little-known designers' clothing inside a bare-walled gallery.

There were $5 T-shirts printed with such phrases as "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT" and skateboards decorated with skulls and flames.

This den of antiestablishment irony was -- ironically -- sponsored by one of the biggest corporations on the planet: Toyota Motor Corp. Or, more accurately, by Scion, Toyota's meticulously engineered antiestablishment youth brand, which in four years has managed to sell more than 400,000 vehicles and create a product that is most popular within the 20-to-25 age bracket.

Not that anyone at the fashion sale seemed to know, or care.

"This is for what? Scion? I don't know about that. It was pretty cool. I got a T-shirt," said Ilanit Gluckowsky, 24, succinctly distilling the reaction of most shoppers when their low-key host was revealed to her.

The shoppers might not have known about Scion, but because of these events, Scion is learning valuable information about them -- like the kind of fashion and music they embrace.

And Scion also is creating positive, if subconscious, buzz about its own brand: that it's not the kind of car company that hits you in the head with ads, that it is the kind of car company that supports young fashion designers and jewelry makers, and unknown artists of all kinds.

In its quest to capture a base of the young and hip -- confident that one day they will be old and rich (and possibly in the market for a Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand) -- Scion has created a marketing strategy for an antimarketing crowd.

The brand has quietly and effectively entrenched itself in a youth culture that likes to think it's immune to the aggressive marketing that helped make Toyota so popular with its parents. Scion employees endlessly recite the same two words, like they've been beaten with a thick stack of the market research that bears them: subtlety and authenticity.

"The people we're trying to get don't want to see something shoved in their faces. It's subtle, you know?" said Oriel Zelcer.

Marketing without marketing
Zelcer, who works for a youth marketing group Scion consults, was wearing a T-shirt with a cartoon hand grenade smoking a cigarette. Zelcer was monitoring (without seeming like he was monitoring) a sign-in book where people could leave their names and e-mail addresses to be notified of the next event.

For Scion, the sample sale was a first. The company regularly hosts art shows in the gallery space, and holds concerts -- little-known artists only -- across the country. But fashion is the latest way for the company to tap into the lives of its client base, oh-so-coolly spread the Scion message, and create a Scion image.

The mastermind of the event, Jeri Yoshizu, a slim, dark-haired woman wearing a large gold seahorse necklace, green flats and a black and white striped shirt, watched from a corner. Yoshizu is behind Scion's deep dives into youth culture -- the key to why it is considered one of the most successful youth brand launches in the automotive industry.

Yoshizu -- who is 38, but insisted she's "mentally 28" -- said events like the clothing sale are part of a marketing strategy that goes like this: instead of selling Scion to the young as a counterculture supporter of the creative arts, actually make Scion a counterculture supporter of the creative arts.

"It's brand-building, the positive halo," Yoshizu said back at Scion headquarters in Torrance, just south of L.A. "The primary target is the music promoter or the artist" whose work is shown and hopefully purchased at the Scion Gallery.

"That artist will then talk to maybe other artists about how serious Scion is about getting behind the art community. That really makes a difference, because young people can see who's being legit, and who is just marketing.

"We want to be authentic," Yoshizu said, adding that "at the end of the day, your image is going to be what puts you over."

Creating its own consumers
The American market is so competitive, even top foreign automakers know they must aggressively plot to stay ahead. As Detroit catches up to Toyota and Honda in technology, reliability and pricing, there are fewer ways for automakers to distinguish themselves, fewer demographics to exploit. And none tougher than the youth market.

"Scion basically created a market," said Christopher Li, a researcher for a unit of J.D. Power and Associates, which tracks automotive sales. "I'm not even sure they expected to perform that well."

Scion first released its distinctly low-slung vehicles -- one boxy, one egg-shaped -- slowly and quietly in California. Scion started to sell well there, its underground image only helped by limited availability. According to an independent analysis, 35% of Scion customers -- a large slice by industry norms -- are younger than 30.

A large part of Scion's appeal is the array of options encouraging young customers to personalize their vehicles like a Starbucks order. The Scion xA, for example, offers different colored shifter *****, gas and brake pedals (red, blue or silver), interior ambient lighting that illuminates the foot wells and cup holders (amber, blue, green, red), a choice of different wheels and eight types of performance kits -- from a sport muffler for a throaty rumble ($399) to lowering springs ($189).

Image is everything
At Scion's offices, a small building on the back of Toyota's massive campus in Torrance, there are constant discussions about image: the success of the Apple iPod versus the Sony MP3; the VHS tape winning out over Beta.

"In the end, what was the difference? The technologies were the same. It was image," said Sheila Swanson, 37, special events manager for Scion.

To burnish Scion's image, Swanson and Yoshizu, Scion's sales promotions manager, carefully choose venues and performers. For a nationwide Scion tour, where vehicles are available for test-drives, locations are scouted by Hollywood movie scouts in search of edgier crowds.

In Philadelphia, Scion went to South Street, a strip of restaurants and boutiques punctuated by the occasional sex toy shop and tattoo parlor. In Michigan, Scion appeared at Incognito in Royal Oak, known for eclectic shoes and clothes.

What Scion marketers are looking for is not any teenager or twentysomething. They are looking for the trendsetter or, in marketing speak, the early adopter who takes to a new product or style first and influences others to do the same. This was your friend who first used Bluetooth when nobody knew what that meant, or wore skinny jeans before they were on celebrities, but stopped by the time they were sold in Costco.

Mark Templin, Scion vice president, will tell you, for example, that his 17-year-old son, Matt, a junior in high school, "is not the person we're marketing at Scion. He's a jock. He plays football. He's into pickup trucks. He's not the creative set we're after. He's not a trendsetter. He's a trend follower. That's not who we target at Scion."

His 14-year-old daughter, Megan, on the other hand, is a potential target. She's artistic, and doesn't follow fashion trends, but makes her own.

It's a delicate balance, and Scion's style mavens are ever watchful for a tipping point.

"I rely on two groups of people," said Yoshizu, the event promoter. "The first group, if they know about it, it's cool. The second, if they know about it, it's over."

Which can lead to acrobatic dissembling as Scion executives strive mightily not to sound like, you know, executives.

Templin, 46, vice president of marketing at Lexus before coming to Scion, cheerfully notes that there are 142 million people younger than 35 in the United States, even as he insists, straight-faced, that "we're not necessarily trying to sell a million cars a year. That's not what we're about.

"It seems like everybody is trying to trick people into buying their products. ...We want to support the creative community -- music, art, fashion and film."

But only unknown artists, Templin added. If it's someone he's heard of, that person probably doesn't belong at a Scion event.

Making the transition

Yoshizu, who has built a Rolodex of target demographic artists, filmmakers and musicians, quickly realizes when she has made a misstep.

There was the rock disaster of 2005, when Scion promoted three bands that Yoshizu believed had not yet hit the mainstream. But when she got to the first show, "everybody was old!" As in, over 35. "I could tell right away. There was a lot of fleece and Dockers."

Months later, she sponsored a hip-hop show in L.A. that drew a crowd of teenagers. "They were in shape and wore tight T-shirts. There were tons of girls. It was packed. Jackpot."

A reminder that once the art shows are over, and tacos are eaten and the DJs have gone home, Scion is ultimately, as Templin eventually said, "about bringing people to Toyota who wouldn't have been here before."

The transition from Toyota's luxury brand to its youth brand was easy, he said, because "Scion is much more like Lexus than people think. It's about doing the right thing for the customer. It's just a different group of people."

There is no denying the brilliance of taking the guy from the luxury brand and assigning him to sell to his former customers' kids, immediately transforming them into once-and-future Toyota customers. It is a move so authentically corporate, so subversively creative, that only the most disaffected teenager could truly appreciate it.

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I so wanna work for scion. well, scion corporate. who can get me in
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Originally Posted by uberscionofglendale
I so wanna work for scion. well, scion corporate. who can get me in
Your a good guy. . . I bought my CSM tC from you and traded in my PW xA. Your service guys keep ____ing me off though. Damn tech parked a car so close to my car that I couldn't get in (there was less than a foot seperating my car and the Sienna). And then the guys inside somehow couldn't find the keys and/or the tech. The car still had it's window stickers on (pre-sale).

I had to climb in through the trunk. . .

And then the parts guys. . . I've had so many problems it's not even funny.

Screw working for Scion corporate. You need to be GM of Glendale first and take control. The service/parts department needs to be completely fired.
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Just to clarify, Matt is a good guy. I wasn't bashing on you. You did an excellent job.
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put it this way, i have issues with them sometimes. next time you're here, and you have a problem, look for me, and ill try and take care of it.
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And that's why Matt is awesome.
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don't say things like that, sets the bar high, so no matter what i do, i just meet expectations gotta set that bar low, i'm lazy hahahahah.
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Great youth-oriented marketing in place... so I wonder why they decided to switch their flagship model to a soccermom mini-suv?
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"But only unknown artists, Templin added. If it's someone he's heard of, that person probably doesn't belong at a Scion event."

Uh-huh. So Templin's never heard of Ludacris....
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Originally Posted by Easyrider1
Great youth-oriented marketing in place... so I wonder why they decided to switch their flagship model to a soccermom mini-suv?
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Originally Posted by Easyrider1
Great youth-oriented marketing in place... so I wonder why they decided to switch their flagship model to a soccermom mini-suv?
THANK YOU!!! My generation invented the counter culture. The xB is anti-establishment! The xB2 is not--at least it does not appear to be. It is a little confusing.
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Great job . .
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Image is everything! If you are over 30 you're not the kind of customer Scion really wants. The xB was almost ruined by old people, like 35 year olds, buying them because they're cute little practical Toyotas. Scions are TUNER cars for young hipsters. Old folks get lost!! The new xB is the TRUE image of Scion in a hip trendy anticorporate guerilla marketing kind of way. Technology is nothing! As long as Scion targets the RIGHT PEOPLE, everything will go right.

Here is the REAL list of factory options for 2008
1. Seat covers made from 100% recycled hemp fabric
2. "Investigate 9/11" body side graphics
3. ???
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seems to me they are still baffled as to why the scion brand has kicked off so well!
and are looking to make some kind of marketing scheme to cater to

lets face it they missed the hippster market, those days are gone! the economy and industry has changed drasticly in the past few years id dont think any one has noticed how much! the brand has missed there target demographic.
its is extreamly diverse demographic, look at the average statistics of owners(just look around or at show pics)
while the main atrraction to most here is the abillity to modifiy to ones personality cheaply and with a wide varity of extreams( a semi planned side bonus!)

with such mixed reaction towards the new series they seem to be approching it very cautiously and are hunting for a maket to cater to
the original xB broke most all rules of the design trend and look how well it took off!(is the auto industry heading in the right direction at all?)

the auto industry is so out of touch, the companys are all run buy yes men and women looking for the next big thing (or mistake) to exploit.
suvs, trucks, sport sedans, sub compacts, high end lux cars.
the reto modern craze,new beetle, pt cruzer, prowler, hhr, ford GT, mustang. is just a example(its over done and kicking dead horses. or remembering better cars, better days?)

if you break it all down its just a simple evauation of market trends that can never be predicted

its statistical B.S.

dont fit in, dont be a number and dont buy into hype or B.S. think for yourself!
do what makes you happy and benifits you!
not what marketing firms whant you to do, they just dont get it! (aka if you have to ask you wouldent understand)

this is just some observations and comon sense, agree or not but if you dont see behind it,
be in a cow in a herd go right ahead be but kissing yes men or women! NOT MY PROB.
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Originally Posted by brambling
Image is everything! If you are over 30 you're not the kind of customer Scion really wants. The xB was almost ruined by old people, like 35 year olds, buying them because they're cute little practical Toyotas. Scions are TUNER cars for young hipsters. Old folks get lost!! The new xB is the TRUE image of Scion in a hip trendy anticorporate guerilla marketing kind of way. Technology is nothing! As long as Scion targets the RIGHT PEOPLE, everything will go right.

Here is the REAL list of factory options for 2008
1. Seat covers made from 100% recycled hemp fabric
2. "Investigate 9/11" body side graphics
3. ???

tuners are people trying to get more from a under powered car just like the begennings of hot rodding(not what its is today-look up hot rods before the50's)


ask OMC about his age and his bad azz award winnig ride! (sorry ric but you rock! )

the age demoraghic below 26 has little hope for a life(check the statistics they dont lie!)



"Yoshizu, who has built a Rolodex of target demographic artists, filmmakers and musicians, quickly realizes when she has made a misstep.

There was the rock disaster of 2005, when Scion promoted three bands that Yoshizu believed had not yet hit the mainstream. But when she got to the first show, "everybody was old!" As in, over 35. "I could tell right away. There was a lot of fleece and Dockers."

Months later, she sponsored a hip-hop show in L.A. that drew a crowd of teenagers. "They were in shape and wore tight T-shirts. There were tons of girls. It was packed. Jackpot."

A reminder that once the art shows are over, and tacos are eaten and the DJs have gone home, Scion is ultimately, as Templin eventually said, "about bringing people to Toyota who wouldn't have been here before." "
if you mention free youd be suprised who shows up plus "LA hip hop teenagers" will do any thing other than stay home! whats the other options the auto industry sux!

fire your team of marketteers! dummy!
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>Scions are TUNER cars for young hipsters.

You can tune a car but you can't tuna fish.

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Sorry, RDClark, the youngsters don't recognize hit albums from before their time... (I.E. REO Speedwagon...)

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Originally Posted by dmxb
the original xB broke most all rules of the design trend and look how well it took off!(is the auto industry heading in the right direction at all?)

i beg to differ. i believe the xb was a result of many years of market testing by toyota and the fact that the xb's design has been around for many years. For toyota it was easy to bring over a current platform in japan, add more safety features and make it left hand drive plus or minus very minor interior and exterior details. Timing in marketing was the key as the trend back then was all about soccer mom minivans and huge gas guzzling suv's. which still for some reason that baffles me is strong. The first generation rav4 to me was a test bed of the compact wagon/suv theory. Both cars are entirely different, but i owned a first generation rav4 myself, and in a sense owning both cars, both more or less hold the same components in itself. yes the xb is smaller but it makes better use of space.
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