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Old 05-08-2008, 06:46 PM
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Scion tC is One of Eight Vehicles to Meet Proposed Roof Crush Standard

The current roof crush standard requires the roof to support 1.5 times the weight of the vehicle.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) new proposed standard would require roofs to support 2.5 times the weight of the vehicle.
http://scionnews.net/2008/05/08/scio...rush-standard/
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kinda funny cuz our roofs are like all glass too. haha.
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That's good but it's no surprise. While foreign auto makers continue to offer better and safer cars American companies are once again lagging behind.
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wow, what site is this. its looks like winter
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Great idea! So you didn't solve anything, Mr. Lawmakers.

How about requiring stricter tests for getting a license? Or banning you from driving if you DWI? There seem to be more pressing issues on the roads than 2.5 or 4 cars on your roof.
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like was already mentioned...surprising considering the entire top of our cars is glass...and here i was afraid about hail!!!
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it can hold 2.5 times the cars weight but if you roll it, wouldnt the sudden force of that will shatter the roof and totally disregard this wouldnt it...or does it hold 2.5 times on the rails that hold the roof?
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:56 PM
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Notice, too, that 4 of the cars are Toyotas.
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Originally Posted by rvpps2rocks
it can hold 2.5 times the cars weight but if you roll it, wouldnt the sudden force of that will shatter the roof and totally disregard this wouldnt it...or does it hold 2.5 times on the rails that hold the roof?
Actually, as the article states...the tC holds 4.6 times the weight of the vehicle on its roof. This is without roof collapsing. As you said though, the glass will shatter but as long as you have your seatbelt fastened, the car will save you from being crushed by our beloved mother earth (and the seatbelt is enough to keep you from being ejected.
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thats quite impressive...
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So this is where our money goes to...
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I think it's funny that one of the other cars on the list is the Volvo XC - the reason the tC is called tC and not xC is because Volvo "owns" the letters "XC".
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Default Re: Scion tC & Proposed Roof Crush Standard

Originally Posted by ScionicXTC
The current roof crush standard requires the roof to support 1.5 times the weight of the vehicle.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) new proposed standard would require roofs to support 2.5 times the weight of the vehicle.
According to that article, three-quarters of all vehicles already meet the 2.5 standard. The tC is one of only a few vehicles which exceeds the proposed 4.0 standard.
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my point would have to be what is the percentage of vehicle type that rolls its not too many cars from my stand point.
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For crying out loud, people, that doesn't mean the car should withstand FOUR MORE CARS ON THE ROOF. It means that the car needs to survive the force of four times its weight, i.e. when you roll it at 60 MPH, or one of you tC-driving lunatics takes it off the side of an overpass. Like you do.

I'm pretty sure it's the same idiots who complain that our lawmakers waste our time and money on safety regulations who are also the first ones to sue when their Aveos crumple like tin cans. How is it you can't see the need for rigorous, federally-mandated safety standards to be placed on the industry that brought you the Pinto AND the Explorer?

Detroit wouldn't even put airbags in cars if they weren't federally required, since they cost money and Your Fellow American Consumer is too stupid to demand them. Toyota makes their cars insanely safe because they're smart enough to realize that keeping their customers alive is in EVERYONE'S best interest, but as for the rest of 'em....the stricter the safety regs, the better.
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Originally Posted by ZOMGXB
...Toyota makes their cars insanely safe because they're smart enough to realize that keeping their customers alive is in EVERYONE'S best interest....


Well said!
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someone in here rolled his tc, with pics.. i think its rrimportracer and the tc does handle it well, not much damage for a rollover
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Does anyone else notice that this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison?

The tC is 3000lb while a F250 depending on model could weigh up to 6600lb empty. This proposed strength requirement based on vehicle weight would likely fail every full sized SUV out there. 4 x 3000lb is 12,000lb, but 4 x 6600lb is >26,000lb. I'm not sure they can even build frames that can support that kind of weight out of steel.

Key take away, you're less likely to be crushed by your own vehicle rolling over in an accident driving a tC than a truck / SUV. At least you're less likely to roll over in a SUV than a tC. Or was that the other way around...
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I think its the other way around. Since compact cars are lower to the ground, their center of gravity is lower. With higher cars, its higher as well, thus making it easier to roll. I may be wrong though...
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haha...point and case:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=myleA1MpmhU
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