Cryogenic Spark Plugs
#4
Originally Posted by draxcaliber
another question about plugs? we got the best spark plugs on the market stock. the only reason to change them is for colder ones when you go forced induction.
#5
Originally Posted by Teare
Originally Posted by draxcaliber
another question about plugs? we got the best spark plugs on the market stock. the only reason to change them is for colder ones when you go forced induction.
#8
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
Originally Posted by Teare
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
The answer is YES. Somebody has.
#10
Originally Posted by Delta
why need to ask if u have no plans on buying lol k.
are there really no better spark plugs to buy no matter what the cost
are there really no better spark plugs to buy no matter what the cost
Cryogenics plugs are a process added to an OE plug. You can still use an OE Denso, NGK plug or any other for that matter. The stock OE plug is Cryogenically treated to increase durabilty and ignitablity. In turn this is an added increase to your bottom line HP.
BTW - sorry for the boring post. I thought this forum was about cars. I've been hearing alot about cryo plugs and I wanted to know if anyone in the Scion comm. is using.
Peace
#11
Originally Posted by Noodle
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
Originally Posted by Teare
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
The answer is YES. Somebody has.
#12
Originally Posted by WAlterEgo
Originally Posted by Noodle
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
Originally Posted by Teare
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
The answer is YES. Somebody has.
Just in case someone missed a icon.
#13
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
Originally Posted by Teare
Originally Posted by nig_nig_the_conqueror
The answer is YES. Somebody has.
why on earth would you need a cryo-treated spark plug?? does it actually serve a purpose in the case of a tC??
#14
Considering the extremely high life of iridium plugs, I highly doubt it. I have my doubts that it would help any plug. It is not structural strength that a plug needs, it is resistance to corrosion and erosion from normal use. I dont see cryo treated plugs helping this at all. I have still yet to really see real numbers backing the fact that it significantly improves the life of any part on a car. Not saying it doesnt, but I havent really seen "proof" other than from companies trying to sell the service
#16
Originally Posted by engifineer
Considering the extremely high life of iridium plugs, I highly doubt it. I have my doubts that it would help any plug. It is not structural strength that a plug needs, it is resistance to corrosion and erosion from normal use. I dont see cryo treated plugs helping this at all. I have still yet to really see real numbers backing the fact that it significantly improves the life of any part on a car. Not saying it doesnt, but I havent really seen "proof" other than from companies trying to sell the service
Basically most OE spark plugs shells are protected from corrosion in the form of chromate film or a type of trivalent chrome plating. It's now my understanding that there are no claims to increased plug life but only higher ignitability or larger flame kernel. by This larger spark has a direct relation to greater compression and higher HP. Again, its my understanding the Cryo process chnages the structure of the Center and Ground Electrode. Whether this is true or not who knows? I rather ask this question here then at the corner parts store.
True the numbers are still out. I don't know of anyone using right now but I thought it was interesting enough to put the question out there.
#17
I highly doubt all of those claims as well. Knowing what I do about conductivity, I can see no reason that would make a "better" spark. And no matter the spark, compression is the same. Compression is set by the mechanics of the engine.
#18
Originally Posted by engifineer
I highly doubt all of those claims as well. Knowing what I do about conductivity, I can see no reason that would make a "better" spark. And no matter the spark, compression is the same. Compression is set by the mechanics of the engine.
Check out the following site:
http://www.lecryo.com/cryoprocess.html
#19
I have only ever paid a premium price for 2 things that were cryo treated. Both are precision gaging instruments accurate to 0.00005in. If you need a sparkplug that accurate, by all means buy them. I really don't see the need.
#20
I didnt say in any way that all plugs are the same, I said that i dont feel that cryo treating plugs will produce any real result.
First, the link posted above is from someone trying to sell you on the process, not an impartial scientific test. And one of the testimonials about the plugs says they gained 1.6 mpg (which is of question since that amount can easilly be found in the variation of mileage. Without the data he used to calculate that I am very skeptical). The other one apparently has a dyno in his butt and thinks the car even sounds different now. Those sure are some amazing plugs! Cryo treating materials so they are structurally stronger is one thing.. saying it will produce an increase in spark, better mileage, more power, weight loss, etc is another.
First, the link posted above is from someone trying to sell you on the process, not an impartial scientific test. And one of the testimonials about the plugs says they gained 1.6 mpg (which is of question since that amount can easilly be found in the variation of mileage. Without the data he used to calculate that I am very skeptical). The other one apparently has a dyno in his butt and thinks the car even sounds different now. Those sure are some amazing plugs! Cryo treating materials so they are structurally stronger is one thing.. saying it will produce an increase in spark, better mileage, more power, weight loss, etc is another.
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