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Old 08-20-2007 | 05:58 PM
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i am in california.
My car is black.
there is light, med, dark, limo shades.
on my last car i had Med in the back and light in the front.
but it still got hot and it looked okay.
i think i am going to get Dark in the back and Med in the front.
As far as legal issues, is it okay to tint as dark as you want in the back? i know the front is none at all.
also, would Limo in the back and med in the front look cool?
thanks
In California, the law is no tinting for the windshield, up to 70% of light (meaning it can be darker by 30%) has to be allowed on the front side windows, and any percentage of darkness you want in the back. Mine is no windshield, 50% front side windows and 4% visibility the rest. I wanted 0% but the shop I went to doesn't have it; 4% is close enough. So I guess it's limo shade in the back and medium in the front; and it looks cool IMO. If you want photos let me know. Check tintlaws.com.
Wrong.
You can't tint the front side windows or the windshield.
Back two and the hatch.
That's it.
Check your sources. I have check multiple places and everywhere it says in California, 70% is the legal limit for front side windows. My tint shop also says so. Also here are my pics:

There is a good enough different between 50% front and 4% back to make it look good IMO.
My sources are the CALI vehicle code, Mr. Badass.
Go out of the ghetto to get your info...

You seem to like to flame people. I didn't flame you so don't flame me please. I merely answered your respond to my comments. Anyways, here is the California Vehicle Code, note the bold section:

CALIFORNIA CODES
VEHICLE CODE

26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or
upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear
view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle
with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or
rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.
(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward
of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a
7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed
from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are
displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window
farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials
which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the
windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger common
carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere
with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8 ) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped
with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the
vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the
highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the
rear of the vehicle.

(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the
driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which occupies
an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the
rear of that window and which provides the driver with a wide-angle view
through the lens.

(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2
installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat,
if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her
possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and
surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a
medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other
document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must
be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized
by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost
portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater
than 5 inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the
California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with
the device.

(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public
or private roads or facilities.

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed,
affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following
conditions apply:

(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the
undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in front
of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its rearmost
and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

(2) The material is not red or amber in color.

(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering
does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the
eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent
than the windshield without the material.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent
material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows,
located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following
conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements
of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205),
including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and
the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal
standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability
of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle,
a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the
windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this
subdivision and identifies the installing company and the material's
manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was
installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material's
manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed
according to manufacturer's instructions meets the requirements of this
subdivision and identifies the material's manufacturer by full name
and street address.

(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles,
or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed
or replaced.

Amended Sec. 77, Ch. 1154, Stats. 1996. Effective September 30, 1996.
Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 476, Stats. 1998. Effective January 1, 1999.



26708.2. Sun screening devices permitted by paragraph (10) of
subdivision (b) of Section 26708 shall meet the following
requirements:
(a) The devices shall be held in place by means allowing ready
removal from the window area, such as a frame, a rigid material with
temporary fasteners, or a flexible roller shade.
(b) Devices utilizing transparent material shall be green, gray,
or a neutral smoke in color and shall have a luminous transmittance
of not less than 35 percent.
(c) Devices utilizing nontransparent louvers or other alternating
patterns of opaque and open sections shall have an essentially
uniform pattern over the entire surface, except for framing and
supports. At least 35 percent of the device area shall be open and
no individual louver or opaque section shall have a projected
vertical dimension exceeding 3/16 inch.
(d) The devices shall not have a reflective quality exceeding 35
percent on either the inner or outer surface.



26708.5. (a) No person shall place, install, affix, or apply any
transparent material upon the windshield, or side or rear windows, of
any motor vehicle if the material alters the color or reduces the
light transmittance of the windshield or side or rear windows, except
as provided in subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 26708.
(b) Tinted safety glass may be installed in a vehicle if (1) the
glass complies with motor vehicle safety standards of the United
States Department of Transportation for safety glazing materials, and
(2) the glass is installed in a location permitted by those
standards for the particular type of glass used.



26710. It is unlawful to operate any motor vehicle upon a highway
when the windshield or rear window is in such a defective condition
as to impair the driver's vision either to the front or rear.
In the event any windshield or rear window fails to comply with
this code the officer making the inspection shall direct the driver
to make the windshield and rear window conform to the requirements of
this code within 48 hours. The officer may also arrest the driver
and give him notice to appear and further require the driver or the
owner of the vehicle to produce in court satisfactory evidence that
the windshield or rear window has been made to conform to the
requirements of this code.


I contacted the CHP (California Highway Patrol) and DMV, and you are right. The CHP says that any tinting on the front side windows and windshield is illegal. However, the information in the law is contradicting depends on how you interpret the information. Section (d) in CVC 26708 specifies that the material has to be clear and colorless, so any percent darkness (which could be interpreted as blackness in color) would be illegal. But it also says that the minimum visible light transmittance of 70% is allowed according to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205, and according to tintlaws.com, darkness of tint is measured by Visible Light Transmission percentage (VLT%). Therefore, this can be seen as 100% VLT = 0% darkness, 70% VLT = 30% darkness. Many shops have taken this practice and point to the darkness (blackness color) as the legal limit. IMO, at 30% darkness, the human eyes can barely tell the difference; 50% is a little bit riskier but I have not have any trouble so far. However, I do not recommend anything below 50% for the front if you don’t want to get into trouble with the CHP.
Old 08-20-2007 | 11:54 PM
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I have been pulled over by the LAPD, LA County Sheriff, and CHP. They all gave me the same story that anything on the front side windows is illegal. I noticed the 70% part of the law too, so I questioned them on it a while ago and they told me that some cars come with tinted glass from the factory which can be up to 70%. Therefore, anything in addition to the factory shade could ve viewed as potentially being darker than 70%. In other words, if you apply a 70% tint to your windows then they will be darker than 70%.
Old 08-21-2007 | 07:53 PM
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It's like most laws - confusing.
But any tint on your windows in CALI that is not part of the OEM glass is illegal.
I suppose they could be talking about replacing your OEM glass with a manufactured glass of a higher percentage tint in the codes above.

Either way, tinting your front windows in CALI is illegal.
It's not a $10 fixit ticket either - it's $114 and you need to remove the tint and get it examined at the CHiP.
Old 08-21-2007 | 10:06 PM
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Well I received a fix-it ticket from the LAPD. The ticket itself has no fine, but you have to pay $10 in administrative fees at the courthouse when you get your vehicle inspected.

Still, it cost me $5 for removal, $10 for the court fees, and $40 to get it replaced immediately after leaving the court. Much less than a real ticket.
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