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[poll] help me decide on a short shifter

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Old 10-28-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default [poll] help me decide on a short shifter

I've narrowed it down to the creative compact ss and the B&M ss. I thought about the Dr. Isotope but it has too much throw reduction. that takes out most of the play in driving stick shift, i might as well drive an auto.
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bump! i need some opinions plz
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?? It is nothing like an auto. You reduce throw to make faster shifts.

Contact doc, he can usually do various throw reductions and heights.

But if you dont want much throw reduction, just cut the stock shifter down and re-thread it. It is cheaper than buying one somewhere (free if you already have the tools) and will get what you need.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:27 PM
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TRD FTW. I've got it in my TC, and its awesome.. changes a lot of the characteristics of the shifting.. tighter throws, and kinda "Pops" into place.
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Default Re: [poll] help me decide on a short shifter

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I thought about the Dr. Isotope but it has too much throw reduction. that takes out most of the play in driving stick shift...
That's the point of the short shifter, it's to shorten shift throws. You don't want waste time shifting your car, you want to spend more time driving it. But as engifineer said, it's a completely customizable shifter if, for whatever reason, you want longer throws than Doc I typically offers. :?
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:52 PM
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well, I understand the purpose of a short shifter is to spend less time shifting but I'm the kind of driver that actually enjoys downshifting. If the throw is too effortless then I might not enjoy shifting as much.
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The throw is reduced, but not the effort. In fact, the effort goes up as the throw length decreases.

You don't shift any more or less; with a short shifter you spend less time between shifts. I really don't see how saving a few hundredths of a second off of your shift time will decrease your enjoyment in shifting...
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This may seem like a dumb question.... but why not stay stock then? Even just shortening the height will reduce throws to some degree.

But with short throws, effort is actaully increased in a sense. You are taking leverage away from the shift. So while you arent moving as far, it is taking a bit more effort to get into gear. That is why going way too short will make shifting a huge pain in the ****
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A short shifter also makes the shifts less rubbery so it feels better and its easyer to get into gear.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:20 AM
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Dude go with the Doc I setup.. he has a nice wide range to pick from and you cant go wrong with a re-worked stock shifter.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:23 AM
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Oh. If you want the look of a short shifter without the reduction in distance.... you could probably ask Doc I to get you a shifter that's proportionally shorter on both ends of the shifting fulcrum. That way you'll get a stick that's visually shorter with the stock throw distance.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:36 AM
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i would go with the dr i i had one in my 05xb loved it and he will pretty much make any style *** you want i lvoed it best mod i had next to the wheels
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creative compacts or the doc i shifter are the way to go. i have the CC and i love it.
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yep the CC feels super solid, and it has close to no play when it's in gear. and it's decently cheap too.
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