himynameischris

is there any way of me to get 200hp or close to 200hp without breaking the warranty on the car. and without buying the trd supercharger.




and suggestions.


and what would be the most i could get without breaking the warranty.
and in an auto.

N-Dawg

don't mean to sound rude, but this has beed discussed several times.

guitarguru44

not possible..

groundcontrol

Any mod will void at least parts of your warranty, sorry.

You get a header and blow a gasket and it wont cover it. You get a header and your shocks blow out, you're still covered by warranty. Toyota has to prove the aftermarket item caused the problem for it to void your warranty.

nodsetse

I tend to agree, it ain't gonna happen.

aveosam

you wont be able to get 200whp without working on internals.

Crayola_G

nothigns gona void your warrenty, if the part is the reason for ur car messing up its on you, but if its for another reason warrenty covers it.

Magnus213

iTrader: (1)

It can be said that anything to get your close to 200 hp will destroy your engine-related warranty. If you go forced induction, well that's an immediate killer. If you go N/A, it'll take large amounts of tuning and work with the internals that'll kill Toyota's desire to back you up.

PakanaHerruus

i say the best way to get over 200hp and still keep warranty is buy a faster car.. perhaps a mustang.. hehe.. im on the market for one.. cause my box is slow.. and i want something faster

WarShrike

Hmm, 200whp? Maybe full header-back exhaust, good intake, maybe an agressive cam setup and a really good tune and you're getting close. Only problem with trying to get more power N/A makes things a little more of a terror in the daily drivability dept. <-But that depends on how much of an enthusiast you are. Some people daily drive their 10 second cars all the time here

In the V6 F-body world, we have some pure N/A cars running 12.5's in the 1/4, somewhere in the 250-300whp range and they are just about the max of their capability without a stroker kit. That's a whole other monkey wrench in the works.

Just to note, the cars running the higher hp in the v6 community are full heads/intake/cam/exhaust cars on agressive tunes.

mattvs

except that cams don't exist for the tC and the possibility of a really good tune is about 0% considering the inability to tune without a crappy piggy-back computer.


OP: Stop making these stupid threads. It's been discussed before. Learn to search.

redwar1441

get a diffrent car.

malibuboy54

haha, yet another one of these threads.....search search search!!!

TCpete

search...theres a few threads on this topic.. but theres no way of getting to 200 without breaking open the head with a head swap or the block and adding hich compression pistons. you will need to do both to get to 200 NA.

engifineer

First, cams, intake (worthless), header back (not near what they advertise) etc wont get you close. It will take internals (higher compression) and a lot of other work to get it done, including most likely raising the redline (Again, internals). I am not saying an NA build would not be fun, but people think bolt ons are like magic.. cause they believe too many online dynos and advertisements.

Second, I swear that there should be a feature that suspends you for mentioning void and warranty in the same sentance. This has been discussed a billion times.

Finally, and most importantly, you should search first.. this has been beaten to death.

WarShrike

Ah, didn't know there aren't any cams available for these cars yet.

Guessing w/ the differing technology of the VVT-i or whatever compared to a regular pushrod engine, there are other things you have to take into consideration when the cam profile changes at the higher rpms.

In the domestic world, exhaust and intake are just minor mods that can support the larger stuff in regard to heads work and internals modification like cams and such. I know the OHC world is quite different in some aspects. I'm still learning, but I do it quickly

EDIT: Woops, I just noticed a flaw in my thoughts on the VVT-i system. Was thinking Vtec system Realized the error, so there aren't differing cam profiles it's just an advanced timing on the intake cam on a variable pulley.

engifineer

Some companies have looked at building cams for the tC. The comments I remember hearing is that it would be nearly pointless due to the small amount of gain they could squeeze out, especially considering the amount of work to get them right on our setup.

WarShrike

It's pretty much the all or none approach with this engine eh? Oh well, I'm not getting this car for absolute earth shattering performance, but it's on par with my bird, has a reasonable sticker price and has a warranty

redwar1441

its almost like toyota knew what they were doing when they designed the engine! Look at the intake for example, what a 1hp increase for an aftermarket one thats ten times louder and lets more dirt in. Toyota did a good job keeping it freeflowing. Same goes for the cams valves, head etc etc. If you want a substantial power increase you have to find where they had to cut corners. Which mean sacrifice. More noise more maintnence etc etc. Raise th compresion and increase displacement. Require hier octain gas, retune with an emanage. Larger valves sacrificing low end torque etc etc. Its is very possible to make 200 hp na, buuuuuuuuuut. You will void the warranty with the first part you put on.

nodsetse

Totally agree, and am sure that unfortunate situation will continue.
Wasn't it P.T. Barnum who said "There's a sucker born every minute"?