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Old 02-26-2009 | 08:46 PM
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honestly I think you might would be able to hit 200 whp with that setup. I am about to finish my setup of Injen CAI, Agency Power Pulley, Tsudo Header and Full 2.5" exhaust and will be getting to the dyno in the first of May. Now theres a vid on youtube of a Dude with an Injen CAI, Tsudo header, and PM exhaust that puts down 169whp and 167 tq. I'm expecting around 175 MAYBE 180 with full 2.5" exhaust and a pulley too. Now if you plan on running a similar setup with a stage 3 cam and the intake manifold and THEN tune it. I dont see why you couldn't make 25-30 whp from the cam, intake manifold and the tune when you have the exhaust and everything to support your other mods. The only thing I'm not sure about is your tuning device. But I dont really know very much about tuning either....but if you do all of what you were saying and have it tuned properly and successfully, I think you could see 200whp.

Also ppl wth? Cams aren't bolt on

I may retract everything I just said if i go to dyno and come up with much less. But based off of what I know now, I think you're good. Now do it and tell us the results!!!
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hes not gonna see 200
Old 02-26-2009 | 08:49 PM
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Dont think youll see 200. What kind of dyno will you be on?
Old 02-26-2009 | 08:51 PM
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i want to see some dyno results of this. even 190whp would be pretty gnarly
Old 02-26-2009 | 10:48 PM
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on a mustang dyno which reads very very low


so figure an east 19X whp untuned... kthanxbye!
Old 02-26-2009 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
on a mustang dyno which reads very very low

so figure an east 19X whp untuned... kthanxbye!
I never doubted you would hit 200.

I just dont think the OP will with his setup
Old 02-26-2009 | 11:37 PM
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not with his set up he wont.. i coulda done it with a nice tune and upgraded pipe.. the dyno above was on the stock mid pipe! lol.. so go figure how much more i coulda if i got a decent 2.5
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Plus you were on a mustang. you think your pushing lie 215 on dynojet?
Old 02-27-2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
the dyno above was on the stock mid pipe! lol..
why in gods name would you sick with the restrictive stock exhaust if you were trying to get the most out of it n/a?
that's a nice slice of fail right there...
Old 02-27-2009 | 01:51 PM
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LMAO ^^^ the throttle response i had when i had a 2.25 PIPING was obscured

btw the stock piping is 2.375 in diameter which IMO was perfect for what i needed in terms of performance at WOT in both low and high RPM...

if you want to say thats a fail move fine for you... but the dynos and track times say my fail is a MTFW!
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Originally Posted by TCpete
LMAO ^^^ the throttle response i had when i had a 2.25 PIPING was obscured

btw the stock piping is 2.375 in diameter which IMO was perfect for what i needed in terms of performance at WOT in both low and high RPM...

if you want to say thats a fail move fine for you... but the dynos and track times say my fail is a MTFW!
dude the stock pipping is no where near 2.375" lol
Old 02-27-2009 | 02:36 PM
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Actually when I was at PTuning for the dyno-shootout, the N/A tC with the stock S-Pipe had the best outcome. Exhausts can be overdone.
Old 02-27-2009 | 02:40 PM
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same thing i was jus about to say. having a .25 of a difference in a exhaust isnt much of a difference on a NA car, so unexpectederror u fail for thinkin u know sumthing about NA and dynos?

when u go huge exhaust on a NA is pointless which is y almost all aftermarket exhausts are 2.25 (AP,Megan etc)
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by unxpectederror
Originally Posted by TCpete
LMAO ^^^ the throttle response i had when i had a 2.25 PIPING was obscured

btw the stock piping is 2.375 in diameter which IMO was perfect for what i needed in terms of performance at WOT in both low and high RPM...

if you want to say thats a fail move fine for you... but the dynos and track times say my fail is a MTFW!
dude the stock pipping is no where near 2.375" lol
mines is.... why dont u go try inspecting yours of u still have it... mabybe i just got lucky... but it is what it is... theres plenty of vids of me on youtube you can check out for yourself of my car... when u get on my level or pass then u can say i fail... and if you just have a few mods and never really did anything to make ur car fast or break 170 NA whp then you should just stop typing.

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Actually when I was at PTuning for the dyno-shootout, the N/A tC with the stock S-Pipe had the best outcome. Exhausts can be overdone.
QFT!! i heard about that dyno shoot out and wasnt suprised at all!!... i think 2.5 for NA is over-rated.. maybe for a top end run but ehh i dont think so... the stock mid pipe is actually quit perfect in design... take out the CAT if anything and you got a good system for power...

but of course what the hell do i know
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:17 PM
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I don't remember the combo, but it was header, stock s-pipe and some catback.

It was solid proof that changing the s-pipe will cause a loss in HP on an N/A tC with header/catback.
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:20 PM
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wasnt crazyeddie the NA with the best dyno? 164 or 167? and he had a injen intake dc header and jus an axleback?
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:23 PM
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man u know thats weird because i had i/h/e and spipe and for a few weeks while i was getting a bung welded onto my new spipe i rode around with the stock spipe and man that crap suckedddddd

when i popped on the invidia spipe again it was a new car completely...

i think the spipe does help.. atleast the invidia one... and when i had my mmw combo that was also nice.. but stock sucks on the spipe.. that crap is like a straw lol
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:26 PM
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dont u still have the MMW?

yea from wat i remember reading fron jon awhile bak people with fullexhaust header back werent even doin that great and crazyedie with jus a header and axleback had the best dyno
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:29 PM
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Yeah it was edie. It was an 06 that was beating 07/08's with full exhausts. Same dyno, same conditions, same day. Stock 08 ran 144.8 that day.
Old 02-27-2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rosedaleny806
dont u still have the MMW?

yea from wat i remember reading fron jon awhile bak people with fullexhaust header back werent even doin that great and crazyedie with jus a header and axleback had the best dyno
no i left the MMW world and went with the better alpha werks and invidia combo....

it was a nice change in low and middle end performance but lacked the top end from the MMW but im not complaining.. it was a good decision on my part.. the MMW was getting to problematic to deal with.


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