ekolius

i have my headers coming today and read that that kid got 11 hrp gain w/ the a/w headers though.

I heared that the dc are very good and deleiver the same hp gain too. can anyone confirm this to be true?

im putting them in today and will post the results and can anyone tell me if my cel will come on?

matty-tC

a/w are 4->1 not 4->2->1. more peak gains.

i created a thread about general modding but my main topic was the dc sports.. check here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66545

ekolius

i thought the 4-2-1 was a better setup

matty-tC

nope. 4 into 1 is better for overall power but sacrifices low end torque (slightly).
4-2-1 retains the low end torque but doesn't give as much of a gain up high

ekolius

oh i see so it really matters what kind of performence your looking for low end or high? my low end is horrible. i'm going to get the camcon next that should help a lot.

matty-tC

mostly. camcon should yeild another 5-8hp.

ekolius

cool im also putting on new crank pulley's too.

Thrawn

Just to make sure you know, the CamCon will have to be tuned on the dyno. That can get extremely expensive. If you plan to do other mods that are going to modify the airflow in or out of the car, then you should wait until after those mods are installed to tune the CamCon. Otherwise, you'll have to tune it multiple times in order to make good use out of it and ensure a good A/F ratio balance.

ekolius

ok thats for the tip i will keep that in mind

i also just installed my headers and it turns out that they are 4-1. isnt that crazy.

notice a diff too. tomorrow i put the air intake and exhaust on i cant wait
ill keep u guys updated

matty-tC

dc sports are 4-2-1.. post pics please

Swanny

The DC Sports Header is 4-1. It is labeled incorrectly on some websites.

i64X

DC header is 4>1

I have one and I installed it myself.

matty-tC

i stand corrected. i just viewed the install thread and it looks like 4-1. for some reason i had that mixed up.

ekolius

YEAH COOL!! ill take some pics later today with the intake on too. I ll take some of the exhuast too. i should get some more hp when me headers can breath properley

matty-tC

cool

are you planning on getting a dyno run or camcon/emanage with a tune?

ekolius

Yeah im going to get crank pulleys first then get the camcon and tune with a dyno. i should have those pics up by 5-6 pm e timezone

ekolius

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miamibusta69

wait so what is better the aw or the dc?

ekolius

i can't tell you for sure, but i looked and they looked the same and. they where 100.00 dollars cheaper and now i can cherp second no problem, then i put the intake on and wow what a sound.

pls tell me how to post pic so i can share.

Thrawn

Honestly, the AW seem to have a better design. The DC are ceramic coated, while the AW are completely stainless steel and w/ a Lifetime warranty on their craftsmanship. If I were to guess, I'd say AW put more R&D into their design, such as the collector, and would likely produce more gains.