soros151

Guys I sent an e-mail just for the heck of it, to BrianCrower, asking if they were in the works for cams for the tC, and they answered this:

"Definitely high up on the list of things to do. Just have to get the original cam line up and then the Scion tC cams are next in line. Figure a realistic 3 months though.



Thank you,



Brian"

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Brian Crower, Inc.

P: 619-825-8719

F: 619-825-9675

http://www.briancrower.com


What do you think!?

XD40tC

Cool

05-RS1

i'll repost wat i said in the F/I section

Brian Crower is definitely good stuff. but expect a longer waiting period for the release.

RSX's k20a3's and hybrid k24's have been waiting forever for their n/a and boost cams. we were promised to have them in August 06, but still nothing seen. the only thing we have worth mentioning from BC is the stroker kit.

blownupmarine

There are already some cams for us S/C guys. I’m saving up for this one for sure.

http://www.rippmods.com/products/pro...&productId=354

Any other pics or good read on Brians Cams?

soros151

Yhea, but what about turbo and N/A guys. We need to feel loved too.

blownupmarine

I understand what what your saying.

chrischoi

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WHO!!?

MIKE JONES!

blownupmarine

This guy.....

05-RS1

with the current turbo manifolds i've seen for the tC, turbo cams may actually cause you to lose power. the manifold and turbo are so restrictive that if you keep the valve open longer (allowing more time for the gasses to leave the cyl) that they will actually push exh back into the cyl and you will lose power.

huge cams work best on long runner exh manifolds, and better yet on properly divided setups.

blownupmarine

Very Intresting

soros151

When building a motor, u have to take those points into consideration, and with that, you would look for a better flowing turbo manifold and a slightly A/R for the turbo, to take advantage of the more flow of air, thus increasing its capacity to achieve power. At least that's would I would do. Maybe for N/A we can see the IM helping low and mid end, and using the cams for mid to high power. Goopd balance there.

tuffCookie

interesting news...watching.

i'd like to know how it'll perform on a stock head for both N/A and turbo apps. besides needing longer equal length runners, the head will probably need better flow characteristics to gain anything. please correct me if i'm wrong.

Neothin

not necessarily... while yes, the best gains will be seen with the additon of a ported head in additon to cams, cams along will help out. while the restriction may be there w/o a ported head, the different duration and lift will help power.

05-RS1

has anyone ever benchflow tested the tC head? who knows, it may flow sufficient enough.

basic steps for n/a:
-CAI/MMW RH/ high flow exhaust
-lets say that new intake manifold in development
-n/a cams, valvesprings, titanium retainers
-emanage ultimate
-tuned by GOOD tuner

HP gains=?? no one knows b/c no one has gone this route.

soros151

Somewhere below or after 200whp. But near. If the head is ported in addition to this mods I say at least 200-215-200whp.

Guru

I have already ordered my stroker kit from Brian and am patiently waiting. My spare block is getting sleeved at ERL at the moment and cams are definately going to be needed. The nice thing is he will have a nice stage 2 cam for FI for you turbo and SC guys. The difference in power can be dramatic even with a stock head (mine is getting ported).

adg016

I would love to find out who has and what the results are. I agree, no one has built an N/A motor enough to know what's left on the table. I'm particularly interested in what can be gained with meticulously -done headwork.

05-RS1

are you destroking and raising compression or building for boost?

make sure you check all your stuff before trying to install it. An RSXer recently got his BC stroker kit being installed, and Brian did NOT include the wrist pins. they were in the middle of an install. Called Brian up and tried to make the owner pay an extra $50 for it when its supposed to be included. Luckily, the installer had an extra set to spare. but results are still pending.

its about time the tC get some real motor folks making things.

soros151

WOW, very interested. More info dude.

tuffCookie

i'm sure many others, like myself, wish there was more info about Leslie Durst's tC...which, btw for those that don't know, is a N/A 2AZ-FE motor. when i met her crew in NJ during the Nopi Nationals in the summer, i was only able to get the following info:

- they disabled VVT-I
- custom cams
- AEM stand alone (supposedly they're working with AEM to release the stand alone, but early problems were caused by the drive-by-wire system)
- drive-by-wire to throttle cable conversion (supposedly going to release this kit)
- 8,000 RPM redline
- crankshaft, pistons, rods, P&P, sleeving


buuuuuuuuuuut, they also told me to look out for their line of tC parts on www.scion-parts.com planned for around early 07. this includes N/A and FI applications.

at the time the site says simple read scion-parts. but now it shows that it's "COMING SOON" i'm really eager to see what they will have for our motor.