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Old 12-22-2004, 06:17 PM
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In an interesting move DRAG Turbo would like to develop a turbo kit for a Scion Tc. This would be a partial sponsorship. The cost that individual that is selected would be $2500.00. This would include the R&D and a full kit for your Scion Tc.

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1. Stock Scion Tc
2. Car needs to be with Drag for 3 weeks
3. Partial sponsorship
4. Logo placement on car
5. Must be local in Southern California


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thats alot for using someones car to test on and have for 3 weeks. all the other development cars that I've seen are full sponsorships
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You have to take into account that DRAG turbo is a very well known company.

Also a Turbo kit for a car are in the range of $3500- 4K now a days. So your saving $1k to $1500.00. Also you get to say that you have the first Drag Turbo kit for a Scion Tc.
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and you get a sticker
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how much hp are they plannin to produce...if it's not that much then it's not worth it no? or when they get an upgrade do u still get discount for the upgraded package?
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Originally Posted by Karma
You have to take into account that DRAG turbo is a very well known company.

Also a Turbo kit for a car are in the range of $3500- 4K now a days. So your saving $1k to $1500.00. Also you get to say that you have the first Drag Turbo kit for a Scion Tc.
in other words, a cheap, one-off prototype that may or may not blow your motor.

what sort of insurance/protection are you offering to the owner of the test car?
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Originally Posted by cad455
Originally Posted by Karma
You have to take into account that DRAG turbo is a very well known company.

Also a Turbo kit for a car are in the range of $3500- 4K now a days. So your saving $1k to $1500.00. Also you get to say that you have the first Drag Turbo kit for a Scion Tc.
in other words, a cheap, one-off prototype that may or may not blow your motor.

what sort of insurance/protection are you offering to the owner of the test car?
i have a drag kit on my teg it was pretty good for the money. but i would like to know the insurance/protection also.
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Sounds like a bad deal to me.

If you are to donate your car for R&D... with a TURBO none the less...

It better be a full sponsorship.

If you go partial and something goes wrong... POP, detonation, piston burning, etc... they may not be liable... considering you PAID them.

Think about it.

Love your tC.... NA is plenty good
tC is Plenty Good

In a "SPONSORSHIP" scenario like described in post one here... it's a Play at your own RISK.
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Yeah I'm tempted because I really dont have a money tree out back yet, AND live in So. Cal. but like the others have said, what guarantees are there and all that other nice info...
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and why is it under corner carvers
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that price is $1k more than the 3 other turbo sponsors I have gotten for different cars. When I asked a shop for sponsorship on my xB they said $1800 and that was with the best parts and add ons, research, dyno, tuning, exhaust, and installation.

But then again if you don't know jack about a car and couldn't install a turbo...you're looking to spend upwards of $800 on installation alone so the kits costing you $1700.

well known doesn't always equal good quality...look at APC
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and look at AIM the airbag company
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I've known Herman Chan of DRAG for a long time and he makes a quality product.

If you guys are worried about quality control and insurance the Greddy kit should be ready by springtime, just wait for that.

If you live in SoCal and don't mind making a decent investment for a quality turbo system. contact them.

I just hope the fuel enrichment system is a electronic solution and not a mechincal one (FMU).
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I am sorry but that is not a decent deal... 3 weeks without a car... You pay $2500? That is still covering actual cost if not over the actual cost of the system. That just really sounds like a "hook up" deal from a friend that works at a shop. If you are going to have a sponsorship that isnt full, you should at least do a 1$ for 1$.. Basically meaning it being half off.
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This is why SCION GIVES tC's to folks like GREDDY.
Yup, that's not a customer car, that's a corporate car. (if you didn't already know)

Scion, like MANY other manufacturers "LOAN" models out to reputable companies for R&D. Then they return them to the manufacturer, who does what they wish with them.

In Scion's case, they will tour them.
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Kinda disturbing to read these comments.. What are you guys expecting? You are getting a turbo kit.. for at least a grand cheaper than retail. Why do people always feel that they should be given something for nothing? Only in America.

You guys should be greatful that these smaller companys are stepping up to the plate to build turbo kits and parts for the Scion. At least someone is showing a vested interest in your car! However, these company's aren't Greddy.. or HKS.. so don't expect something for nothing. I'd rather put my money down on the smaller shop building a badass turbo kit.. than Greddy.. who uses crappy, outdated turbochargers, and shoddy engine management. Greddy is aimed at making money.. not making power.

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I've been involved in turbo projects...
When a company is R&Ding ... there is NO WAY someone should pay for it.

I've seen many turbo kits traded for R&D on donated vehicle.

Not one has EVER PAID for it.

No one ever should either.

If the R&D goes bad... the paying party loses. BIG TIME.

It's how a real business, that trusts it's investments, works.

A company that has no faith in their investment will have someone else PAY to have it installed on their car.

My suggestion to anyone even CONSIDERING paying to play R&D Lab Rat... Snap out of it.
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Then you guys are going to be hard up for turbo kits... I ALWAYS ask the customer to at least cover the materials costs. However, I guarantee the engine/kit. For instance.. if I blow up the engine in the R&D process, or if anything breaks during testing.. I cover it 100%, no questions asked. I am fairly confident in my ability though, and I haven't lost a motor in R&D to this date. I have never recieved one complaint about people having to pay for materials when I do R&D. I think you'll find that 99% of the shops that you go to.. will tell you the same thing. I do this for a living, and I am friends with owners of at least 2 dozen shops. Each and every one of them does the same thing that I do.

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No need to get defensive. Just sponsor it. Why cheap out on a customer? A success = many $ thanks to your R&D subject.

It makes sense. It's how the people I've dealt with have done it for Years. One Free R&D is nothing when you are selling $3500-$5000 Turbo Systems.

I think that is how most of us "in the know" feel about it, know how it is, and expect the better to be.

I'm sorry if this rains on your parade, but it's business.
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Doesn't rain on my parade.. I've got several people willing to spend money to have a nice, quality product made.

I mean, I've only been doing this for 4 years.. but what do I know? ;)

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