Notices
Scion tC 1G Drivetrain & Power Engine and transmission discussions...

engine flooding

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-11-2006, 06:22 AM
  #1  
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Skatewerks6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 73
Default engine flooding

i just bought a k&n cold air intake for my tc and i heard that if i drive in the rain i could flood my engine? I never heard about this before...
how true ?
Skatewerks6 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 06:25 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Premium Member
 
Yanki01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 8,776
Default

well if you drive in maybe about 2-3 ft? I think the AEM bypass valve would kinda eliminate that? But someone correct me if im wrong?
Yanki01 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 06:36 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
OldYeller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cucamonga, CA RT66
Posts: 4,402
Default

AEM has a bypass valve to insure that the engine is not flooded. I am not sure they come with all AEM CAIs but I know they are available and should be used. Not sure about the K&N model--but I would sure check it out.........
OldYeller is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 06:39 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Premium Member
 
Yanki01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 8,776
Default

no they dont come with them but can be purchased seperately.
Yanki01 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 10:42 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Scinergy
 
BigMURR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 1,187
Default

Personally I think the bypass is a waste... think about it, if your trying to go through a puddle that deep maybe you deserve to have the engine flooded. I'd rather just turn around and find another way...imo.
BigMURR is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 11:34 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
vanberge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, Mich
Posts: 236
Default

there are alot of people on this forum with cold air intake (myself included.)

I haven't read about anyone having hydrolock.

I live in michigan.. .snow, heavy rains, etc. etc. I've had my K&N for 12,000 miles / 1 year so far and no problems.

IMO - don't need bypass.
vanberge is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 11:50 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
soros151's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Orlando, Fl//Scion FR-S
Posts: 3,777
Default

I friend of mine hydroflooded his. I REALLY suggest to use it. I have it and wouldn't drive around with out one. Cost me $50..... better than to have to pay another engine.
soros151 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:03 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
ProshopXB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lost in Tranquility
Posts: 3,270
Default

I know that the tC CAI is not exactly the same as an xB's CAI, but I think you all might want to read what has happend to xB who had a CAI with the bypass for some reference: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...227&highlight=
ProshopXB is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:41 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Scinergy
 
BigMURR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Posts: 1,187
Default

^^^ Even more proof not to waste your money with a bypass, if you want the intake your going to have to know what you can and can't drive in. Intakes are good if you are smart driver... puddles/flooded streets should be avoided with or without an intake. buy the intake but save the 50
BigMURR is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:50 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Team ScioNRG
 
Spect2K3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 3,201
Default

Just get it for added safety. It may not be perfect, but its a lot better than without. Its added piece of mind, and if there is one thing that i've learned about upgrading the car, is DON'T be CHEAP!! - its just not worth it to be


Also, that guy doesn't even know that he has a bypass valve - he thinks he does, and the dealer installed it. So likely he doesnt, and if he does, it is probably not installed properly. We've all seen the video of a CAI being completely submerged in water while a car is running with a bypass valve and nothing happened
Spect2K3 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 01:04 PM
  #11  
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
JustAtC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hanover, MD
Posts: 69
Default

i've seen it happened to couple amigos and it was not a pretty screen. I think the stock air i just fine so I don't waste my $$$ on CAI....just my 0.02 cents.
JustAtC is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 03:31 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
scv2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 240
Default

You people are crazy to even argue that a $50 part is a "waste of money." I don't know about you, but I remember the saying : "better to be safe than sorry." You will certainly be sorry that you didn't spend $50 to be safe! I don't want to spend 4 grand on a new engine, SORRY!
scv2004 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 06:57 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
tc2nut4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,509
Default

who ever made the comment about $50 not being worh it clearly doesn't understand some very basic info about engines, I'm not going to get into it but just know this: It only takes 1/4 cup of water to fry a motor under the correct circumstances. Buy your fifty dollar part, smile at better safe than sorry, and hopefully you never use it but face the facts we're all human, you just might miss that puddle, or a car in the other lane could hit that puddle for you, buy the part, put it on and just have that extra piece of mind...
tc2nut4 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 07:03 PM
  #14  
Former Sponsor
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team No Limitz
AlphaSquad
SL Member
 
NoLimitzBuilt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: AlphaSquad - AZ
Posts: 2,622
Default

Go look in the D&S area. There has been about 4 or 5 of them that have hydrolocked. Better safe then sorry that is for sure.
NoLimitzBuilt is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 07:34 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
3min3m2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,459
Default

i have had my injen for 4 months, about 7000 miles, no problems i use the hydroshield cover, it helps out...water beads up on it, doesnt get sucked into filter...unless its a deep puddle
3min3m2 is offline  
Old 08-11-2006, 09:05 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
scv2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 240
Default

The way I look at it, why even take the chance? It's like playing with fire and expecting not to get burned...
scv2004 is offline  
Old 08-14-2006, 05:56 AM
  #17  
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
Skatewerks6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 73
Default

thanks for all the replys, im definitely going to just drop the 50 bucks on it asap.
Skatewerks6 is offline  
Old 08-14-2006, 06:13 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
3min3m2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,459
Default

the tc's CAI is pretty high off the ground...i dont plan on needing a bypass valve anytime soon, but should the need arise, i guess i'll get one..i ahve drove through about 5 inches at most, hit it kinda fast b/c i didn't see it(bad on my part) but no side effects.
3min3m2 is offline  
Old 08-14-2006, 07:38 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
dp-_-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 1,228
Default

do you people not care about your car? who drives in monsoon storms and a big assed puddle of muddy water?
dp-_- is offline  
Old 08-15-2006, 05:25 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
hiram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 261
Default

Originally Posted by BigMURR
Personally I think the bypass is a waste... think about it, if your trying to go through a puddle that deep maybe you deserve to have the engine flooded. I'd rather just turn around and find another way...imo.
+1
hiram is offline  


Quick Reply: engine flooding



All times are GMT. The time now is 06:14 PM.