FIracing

So tell me something? If I'm a "con artist".. then why am I not in jail? All you are doing.. is drumming up as much stuff as you can find on the net about me. In reality.. a few complaints from people over a 3 year span.. isn't too shabby. I am not denying the fact that we had problems. We did.. but those have been rectified.

Travis

FIracing

So, if I send these guys a complete kit via COD... would that still make me a con artist Ryan? I'll do that just to prove my point (and my business).

Travis

Enemigo

Ryan, just stop complaining.. you made your point.. whats the sense of draggin this on? There is no sense.. People had to wait for kits yes... You think this is Greddy? You think Travis has 100 little japanese men running around building kits? (which would be sooo funny).. NO he doesn't. I bet when you get your kit, you will forget it all. They all do. If you don't want it anymore, sell it on ebay. Just stop telling people what to do, you've warned them.. Let the grown-ups make thier own decision. Geeze.. u remind me of Napoleon Dynomite... GEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEEEEE!

Jose

grnechory

well i believe these scion guys can make an informed decision on what is already posted...those links are hard a FEW btw...that was no where near the amount that i found...i gave up posting...and that was plenty to read.

SR20DEvlyn

Travis, in one of the threads on b15 for your customers you stated that all people could find are half a dozen members with actual issues with Forced Induction Racing. In that same thread you stated that you had sold 22 kits, with only half or slightly more coming from the forums (b15 and v-board). If your idea of a satisfactory business is that 50% of your customers are piping mad on the forums months after deadlines are past and every thread you post having someone asking where their parts are, then perhaps you should just state that on your webpage.

Enemigo, stop flaming him for posting his feelings on the company and maybe he would be able to stop responding. The going back and forth with name calling is very childish and looks bad for the community as a whole. Again, there was nothing wrong with the links he posted, they are honest feedback from customers of the company other than himself. Personal attacks turned this thread into what it was, and this wasn't Ryan's fault alone. You posted your feelings about Forced Induction Racing, be done with it.

FIracing

6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.

Travis

D31usion

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~shane0...s/percent.html

6 of 22 = 27.27272727272727

I'm not taking sides.... jusst wanted to be part of the action....

grnechory

travis you dont have to be perfect to have a reputable business...like said previously once before...where there is smoke...there is fire...you dont see hardly any reputable company that does custom work get reamed in the matter you have w/o cause and effect..you screw people...you get the aftermath....


but irregardless ....if you say you are slow...you should offer a refund plain and simple...when you inform a customer 4 to 6 weeks for something then it takes 8 to 12 months...you need to have a course of action ...but you refuse to have any recourse to your poor customer service and business ethics...instead you hold the customers money hostage and force them to wait..unless they lose a crap load of money selling to someone else who can put a fresh new set of legs on the waiting game.

grnechory

lmfao... :D btw nice tc

SR20DEvlyn

If half or slightly more than half of your customers are from the boards, the number of forum customers is 12-14. So yes, 6 of those 12-14 customers that are on the boards is in the neighborhood of 50%.

FIracing

You didn't answer my question Ryan...

If I send out complete turbo kits via COD.. does that still mean that I'm a con artist? ;)

Travis

FIracing

Statistics prove that most people will post on the net only if they have been wronged, or had a bad experience. So, I don't go by just forum members a lone when I look at numbers.

Travis

SR20DEvlyn

Umm... right... I guess when comparing 27% to 50% unsastisfied customers, suddenly things look much better for FIR.

If you were able to send out the kits COD, obviously that would please the Scion members. If this were possible, why can't you fulfill the remaining kits for the B15 that have been outstanding orders for quite some time and paid for?

grnechory

lol you are dealing on the internet forums..those #'s should be taken heavily as they would offer a valid comparison..but anyways .THAT is a crappy ratio...thats like bidding on ebay with someone with a 50 percent feed back rating...you send a kit cod? like that will ever happen...as you said yourself..you build these things to order...unless there is another reason why you dont refund?

FIracing

Well, to sum this up... If you feel uncomfortable with sending me your money up front.. I will send out a kit to you via COD, at no extra charge to you. If you want to discuss anything as far as details, please PM me, or give me a call at 985-713-1542.

Travis

FIracing

I AM! lol.. that's what you guys don't get. I have 2 more kits to take care of. Why do you think I asked Jamie at PTI for help? He is now helping with getting the fabrication done. I haven't realy taken anymore orders for kits.. because I want to get these cleared up first.

Every time that I try to get things straightened out, people have to come in like this, and ruin it.

Travis

grnechory

lmfao..this is the classic travis trying to make the unknowledgable feel bad for him and sympathize for something thats totally his fault....

man you have been trying to do this so called "staightening out" for 2 years..if it hasnt happened by now...maybe you should try a different profession?

D31usion

just wanted to add... con artists usually exploit a weakness in their victim. Using the victim's desire in order to profit. Sacrafice a little.... gain a lot more...

I'd say COD'ing a few turbo kit's is a small sacrafice...

FIracing

If you think that way.. I'll do them all COD.. how's that? I have no desire to rip anyone off. And if you go in on the boards and look around.. EVERY SINGLE person, has always gotten thier stuff from me. Not ONCE have I ever taken someone's money, and not delivered.

Travis

FIracing

No, this is Travis, fed up with people like you, who blow things out of proportion, and travel around on forums to bad mouth me. My offer still stands too btw.. Of course, you're too much of a coward to accept it.

Why do I need to try a different profession? I've been doing this, succesfully for almost 4 years. People don't stay in business for that long by "ripping people off".
Travis