BlkSandPrlTurbotC

I'm starting to really like the setup of the ZPI Stage 1. I spent oh about an hour looking at the turbo, specs etc etc, and for $4,500+ that's what I would expect from a Stage 1.

I'm a diehard GReddy fan, I love their products, but ZPI has really impressed me with this Stage 1. I am CONSIDERING putting this turbo on my credit card

But I want to know would it really be worth it, not to mention i would still need an intercooler and piping for that...

Does anyone here have the Stage 1 from ZPI?

VoLktc

poizentc does you should pm him

rhythmnsmoke

The Stage 1 comes with an intercooler and piping.

tcengel

Greddy turbo kits are cheap and cheaply made. The manifolds and downpipes crack and they always have oil line troubles. Go with ZPI if you have the money to spend. Otherwise wait for Greddy and it will be cheaper.

sportmaned

does ZPI have any intention on CARBing their turbo?

marti_thespeedfactor

Garrett> All Other Turbos. Greddy just relabels Mitsu turbos like the 16g, 18g and 20g. No0t to mention that none of the kits are very aggressive.

depogrig

full race makes some killer stuff too



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matty-tC

I agree. GT40

PoizentC

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2109749

Pm me if you have any questions

unlimited77

Zpi stage 1 comes with an intercooler and piping as stated before, but man what is that turbo manifold....i am so confused?
lol, but looks cool.

lo_bux_racer

It's an equal length header. It makes more power than a log manifold because it uses exhaust tuning instead of just dumping everything into a simple log.

This is also a point of religious debate amongst turbo people. Some say the log retains more heat and spools better, the others say it is equally important to tune the exhaust for torque in the desired powerband. There are good arguments on both sides. Headers tend to crack (no matter who makes them), logs can be made of cast iron and tend not to crack for years, and when they finally do, they still make good boat anchors. I could go on and on, but there are lots of forums who've hosted these debates for years, and nobody ever proves conclusively one way or the other that one is better than the other.

TimmyT

No way will the Greddy turbo kit at release be cheap. You'll be spending at least 4 thousand on it. Greddy will not release the kit if its not Carb legal, they will have upgrades for the kit that stipulates for off road use only though. Carb #s and demand for such kits will put the pricing up there. ZPI kit throws a CEL, ZPI kit also uses a smaller 16 series Mitsu turbo. the Greddy car had a larger 18g. IF greddy makes thier Kit I will definitly purchase one. Its Greddy wich is a very reputable company, and I am sure the product will hold up for what it is intended to do. IF people don't know how to drive under boost and blow thier engine up its no fault of the equipment. Its all driver error. Pinging off of redline and then you see smoke and spray oil all over the road and scream "GREDDY SUCKS!" is just retarded.

tcengel

Look at any Greddy turbo system MSRP and then look at what they sell for. The Greddy kit will be $3,000 with intercooler on ebay after a few months. The 18G that Greddy uses is really no bigger than the Evo 16G that ZPI is using. Greddy is not a reputable company. They just make products for almost every car. They us outdated parts and piece together systems from a bin of parts. That's why their kits are cheap.

kungpaosamuraiii

Greddy isn't reputable, but I think most of us can trust GReddy?

Where is this information from? I don't imagine such a big name as GReddy to be a disreputable company but who knows..?

lo_bux_racer

Trust GReddy vs. Greddy? Huh?

Isn't GReddy called Trust in Japan anyway?

marti_thespeedfactor

Greddy is only sold in the states and is made by Parent Company Trust.

GT40 huh, looking for a 9 second car i see. hahaha i like the way you think.

thechick_zpi

Sorry we just now seen this post.

The stage 1 comes with everything for a complete bolt on installation. We have not finalized the intercooler pipe design on the stage 1 kit at this time. We are 100% done with the stage 0 and they are shipping daily, we would be happy to answer any questions that you have, feel free to contact us M-F 10-7 502-371-RACE or shoot us an email sales@thescionstore.com

Thanks

-ZPIracing

And thanks to all of you answering the questions for him. We need to extend the payroll

hahaitzskippy

you get wat you pay for

boostedscion

im looking for a carb legal setup too