toyota_scion_tc

I have hit a 15.2 with a really bad 60' time. If I can get a decent 60' I will break 14's. My trap was 92.5 but with a better 60' i can hit 93. oh btw with my stock 05 tc I actually ran a 15.565

boostedscion

i think you need to start shaving weight

kungpaosamuraiii

ZPI head? Have you a dyno for that car?

Lyracon

never took the car on an actual dyno however the emanage was tuned via the software and laptop with numerous street pulls like at least 50+ gonna go get it officially dyno'd maybe when I get back from the sandbox.

LENOLA

[quote="killerxromances"]This is why i don't see how a 15.5 is possible with a stock tC. Its not about pride, i'll admit when im wrong when im wrong. Pride means nothing to me, especially on forums. 15.3 with i/h/e i believe, i've seen first hand a i/h/e tc run between 15.1-15.3 1/4. So, you mean to tell me you guys spend $800-$1,000 to shave .2secs off your 1/4? That doesn't sound right, especially with a 15-30whp gain depending on what you you buy, especially a 4-2-1 or 4-1 header. It makes more logical sense, with the power to weight ratio and i/h/e gains that a stock tC is a high 15-low 16 second car. All the runs i've seen personally of stock tCs run high 15s with good drivers. Thats why i say that.

Now, as far as your information goes. I'm not saying you didn't run 15.5, i just find it hard to believe that everyone is all of a sudden running mid 15s in their stock tCs, when for a very long time everyone (Stock) was running high 15s low 16s. I'm not speaking just from my knowledge, i'm also speaking from experience. If you did run 15.5, then i told you i give you props. I have yet to say you are absolutely wrong and you are giving false information. All i have ever said, was i highly doubt it because of ___. So don't think my intensions are worse than what they are, please.

I have been on these forums for over a year, and i try to stay humble as well. However, i have noticed a lot of tCers give off false information and times. Not including you with them, but its true. I'd say 75% of tCers think their car is some incredible track car with i/h/e and maybe trd springs. Sure, it performs better than stock but that doesn't mean its amazing. If you get what im saying. I'm also tired of these s/c'd tc vs. stock ____ forums, or vs. threads in general. I keep hoping the admin. or mods can try to put them all in one catigory. It would really help a lot. lol

But anyway, bottom line is this. From my experience and knowledge, a 15.5 in a stock tC is highly unlikely, but not impossible. This is why i have my doubts, because you showd a time slip i believe you ran that 15.5. However, it made it sound questionable when there was talk of film proof, but no film proof shown. But don't blame me for some "pride" thing, thats just .

Cya!
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I am not gonna argue that the AVERAGE stock tc is a 15.7 - 16.0 second car. I am no wheres near the race ready driver. My best was a 15.7 after 2 trips and 7 straight runs of 16.0 or higher. Before I ran the 15.5 I was running consistant 15.6's the same night. Consistant meaning 4 straight runs of 15.6 and then the final run of the night with the 15.5.

It took me a better part of the first 2 trips to learn the response of the tc. My local track is in need of a resurfacing so it is hell to launch from. Wheel hop and tire spin was inevitable with any launch over 1500 rpm which resulted in 2.7 60's. To get 2.3 and 2.2 60 foot times I compensated reaction time by rolling off the line instead of taching the rpms and dropping the clutch.

Under optimal track conditions in the fall and the amount of practice time that everyone has had thus far it is no question we are seeing mid 15 runs with stock tC's.

If you are only gaining .2 with an I/H/E then either save your money or sign up for driving school.


Here are the time slips for Friday night November 11th Atco raceway 37 degree track temp. Set up was stock except for 18x7.5 with TRD Exhaust 1/4 tank of Luke Oil 87 octane.

WELCOME TO ATCO RACEWAY
J&E PERFORMANCE
QUICK 8 RACING
HARRIS STORAGE
FRANKLIN TRAILERS
DOWNS FORD
WWW.ATCORACE.COM

9:38 PM
11/NOV/2005

Temp F. 37
Relative Humidity 90
Absolute Baro 29.6

SUZUKI BACARDI


-------- LEFT . . . . . RIGHT

Car # . . . 30 284
Class . . .

DIAL . . .
R/T . . . 1.532 .377
60' . . . 1.966 2.323
330 . . . 5.534 6.530
1/8 . . . 8.452 10.003
MPH . . . 83.79 71.01
990 . . . 10.918 12.919
1/4 . . . 13.127 15.562
MPH . . . 105.83 88.53


Left 1st 1.2808
Comoulink AUTOSTART OFF


Rnd # 2526/2527


. . . . . ComouLink StarTRAK 2005

killerxromances

[quote="LENOLA"]I know that with a good driver, you can pull great numbers. Infact, i held one of the fastest xb n/a times for a while, but someone beat me. I also hold my own in autocross and street course racing, because thats what im best at and i find it a lot more fun than straight driving. (street course on track, not actual street) However, i know of a damn good tC driver in a stock one that pulled 15.61 in the 1/4, which is a great time. So, 15.5 isn't impossible, but just very unlikely. But, i'll say you did do it and i give you props. However, thats going to be a rare time for most drivers in a stock tc.

i/h/e, the best time i have seen is a 15.1. Add a light weight crank pulley and zpi head, you have yourself a 14 second car. (not 14 flat per se, just a 14 second car)

Cya