I wanna remove Power Steering..Please Help!?
#23
for those who think im doing this for power gains.... your way off.
im doing this solely for driving expirience, and im hoping it will fare well. either way... at least you (the people) will hear how it went for me.
im doing this solely for driving expirience, and im hoping it will fare well. either way... at least you (the people) will hear how it went for me.
#25
Been driving for 8 years now and i've never driven a car without power steering until I drove an uncles old mistubishi truck. Wow! That was a work out! A 3-point U-turn on a narrow street became a real chore! Good luck with that!
#28
no power steering = 45% better drifting and 63 % better double clutching.
If your going this far in search of performance, you might as well gut the interior and get some of those mythical carbon fiber roof panels to replace the glass.
If your going this far in search of performance, you might as well gut the interior and get some of those mythical carbon fiber roof panels to replace the glass.
#30
Originally Posted by wibblywobbly
no power steering = 45% better drifting and 63 % better double clutching.
If your going this far in search of performance, you might as well gut the interior and get some of those mythical carbon fiber roof panels to replace the glass.
If your going this far in search of performance, you might as well gut the interior and get some of those mythical carbon fiber roof panels to replace the glass.
#31
Originally Posted by farberio
My goodness you people are wimps!!!
Manual Steering is not tough at all...under 5mph its a little annoying...but you get the car rolling a bit and you don't have a problem at all.
Manual Steering is not tough at all...under 5mph its a little annoying...but you get the car rolling a bit and you don't have a problem at all.
#32
well I'll be darned, those CF roof panels do exist. I thought they were the pipe dream of all the people that read the SCC article about the Mini Cooper and decided that it would be the solution for all the TC's problems.
I still stick to my original point thought. If you are going to go as extreme lengths for performance as ditching power steering, removing the sunroof, gutting the interior etc. you should buy a miata, a 240sx or even a fox body mustang..... something that provided a real base for a performance car. i.e. not a porcine FWD econo car like a TC.
I still stick to my original point thought. If you are going to go as extreme lengths for performance as ditching power steering, removing the sunroof, gutting the interior etc. you should buy a miata, a 240sx or even a fox body mustang..... something that provided a real base for a performance car. i.e. not a porcine FWD econo car like a TC.
#33
I wouldn't because if the case happens where you have to make an evasive maneuver (avoid accident) you might not be able to do it in time. I would be worried that if you hit another motorist and they found out your power steering was disabled and that caused the accident they would sue the ____ out of you. And I don’t think removing the timing belt will be the right thing to do anyway. Seeing as the tC doesn’t have one. Also, if it hasn't been said already, cars that don’t come equipped with power steering have racks and ratios designed for such a case. The car was engineered with it for a reason. If you want a car w/o power steering, go buy one.
#35
Originally Posted by tCb00b
I wouldn't because if the case happens where you have to make an evasive maneuver (avoid accident) you might not be able to do it in time. I would be worried that if you hit another motorist and they found out your power steering was disabled and that caused the accident they would sue the ____ out of you. And I don’t think removing the timing belt will be the right thing to do anyway. Seeing as the tC doesn’t have one. Also, if it hasn't been said already, cars that don’t come equipped with power steering have racks and ratios designed for such a case. The car was engineered with it for a reason. If you want a car w/o power steering, go buy one.
#36
Originally Posted by unsungfate
for those who think im doing this for power gains.... your way off.
im doing this solely for driving expirience, and im hoping it will fare well. either way... at least you (the people) will hear how it went for me.
im doing this solely for driving expirience, and im hoping it will fare well. either way... at least you (the people) will hear how it went for me.
#37
That's an interesting point you make about the accident, and definitely one worth thinking about. What cars out today don't come stock with power steering? Lotus Elise... I'm trying to think... MR2? Miata?
Edit: Im not saying he should buy a car and swap racks but buy a car that doesn't have it and drive it to get the no power steering experience.
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That's an interesting point you make about the accident, and definitely one worth thinking about. What cars out today don't come stock with power steering? Lotus Elise... I'm trying to think... MR2? Miata?[/quote]
I was thinking he should find something older probably something from the 80's although I know some cars in the 90's had P/S as an option, Honda comes to mind. I'm sure if he looks he can find something to gain "experience" from. He could even kill 2 birds with one stone by learning how to save up for something. He may know how to do this already but it would be a great lesson in self-discipline.[/quote]
See but that wouldnt really work. Finding a car that didnt come with power steering will be different than the tC witout power steering. The tC was designed with power steering in mind. A non power steering car will have a different rack and pinion setup (or what ever it may be). Ratios will be different to give more leverage and the overall feel will be completely different.
I was thinking he should find something older probably something from the 80's although I know some cars in the 90's had P/S as an option, Honda comes to mind. I'm sure if he looks he can find something to gain "experience" from. He could even kill 2 birds with one stone by learning how to save up for something. He may know how to do this already but it would be a great lesson in self-discipline.[/quote]
See but that wouldnt really work. Finding a car that didnt come with power steering will be different than the tC witout power steering. The tC was designed with power steering in mind. A non power steering car will have a different rack and pinion setup (or what ever it may be). Ratios will be different to give more leverage and the overall feel will be completely different.
#40
If you loop the pressure in/out at the steering rack, it'll be slightly easier to turn, plus it'll allow you to keep fluid in the steering rack to ensure it doesn't prematurely fail.
Also I'd be willing to bet there's a power gain. In addition to a ~20lb weight reduction, gains would be similar to that of a lightweight pulley.
Also I'd be willing to bet there's a power gain. In addition to a ~20lb weight reduction, gains would be similar to that of a lightweight pulley.