Installed Camcon VVT-I controller
#61
is there any way to install this without tapping into the wires. i know for example, unichip is plug and play. the stock harness plugs into the unichip and the unichip plugs into the ecu. is there an adapter/wire harness that would allow this? if not, i think someone should do this. heh. i know with my old car, my accord, people installed apex vafc with a frog harness which turned it into plug n play.
#64
Originally Posted by matty-tC
Originally Posted by isis
i just installed my camcon last saturday... only 5HP increase, but seeing my VVT-i engine is still stock, that's quite impressive!
increased only 5HP, from 82.88 to 88.76... 0 to 100 used to be 11++ seconds , now it's 10.46 seconds
US is sellin camcon rather expensive, i must say. i did mine for RM1550 (413.72USD), including installation and dyno run.
got it cheap as i was the guinea pig i guess
#65
This sounds very interesting, I could have sworn the last thread I read about the camcon resulted in almost no gains at all. If you can get up to 10hp from using this and tuning your engine- well, that's appealing to me.
My only question is, are there any long-term effects on the engine? Can using this cause premature wear or damage? Thanks, and sorry if this is a stupid question
edit: oh, and after tuning for increased HP, how was the MPG affected?
My only question is, are there any long-term effects on the engine? Can using this cause premature wear or damage? Thanks, and sorry if this is a stupid question
edit: oh, and after tuning for increased HP, how was the MPG affected?
#66
Originally Posted by Chaos_Being
This sounds very interesting, I could have sworn the last thread I read about the camcon resulted in almost no gains at all. If you can get up to 10hp from using this and tuning your engine- well, that's appealing to me.
My only question is, are there any long-term effects on the engine? Can using this cause premature wear or damage? Thanks, and sorry if this is a stupid question
edit: oh, and after tuning for increased HP, how was the MPG affected?
My only question is, are there any long-term effects on the engine? Can using this cause premature wear or damage? Thanks, and sorry if this is a stupid question
edit: oh, and after tuning for increased HP, how was the MPG affected?
Effects on the engine will depend on how its tuned. Someone could severely damage their engine if they don't tune it properly. MPG will also depend on how its tuned and of course driving habits. If its tuned for more power by leaning it out, then less fuel is being used but more aggressive driving habits could counter act that.
#67
Originally Posted by isis
Originally Posted by matty-tC
Originally Posted by isis
i just installed my camcon last saturday... only 5HP increase, but seeing my VVT-i engine is still stock, that's quite impressive!
increased only 5HP, from 82.88 to 88.76... 0 to 100 used to be 11++ seconds , now it's 10.46 seconds
US is sellin camcon rather expensive, i must say. i did mine for RM1550 (413.72USD), including installation and dyno run.
got it cheap as i was the guinea pig i guess
#69
Originally Posted by matty-tC
you want to shoot for 14.7 AFR with a naturally aspirated engine.
does the camcon monitor knock?
does the camcon monitor knock?
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Unless I just overlooked the link, I'm having a hard time finding a website that sells the Camcon. Can someone post the link please?
#72
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Unless I just overlooked the link, I'm having a hard time finding a website that sells the Camcon. Can someone post the link please?
#73
Originally Posted by engifineer
Careful you arent running it too lean... that can be a bad thing.
Thrawn,
you're right! A friend of mine installed this unit into his Toyota Altis and he only gained 2HP... Btw, have you ever seen or heard of Vios before? just curios as Vios is only sold in South East Asia.
#74
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Unless I just overlooked the link, I'm having a hard time finding a website that sells the Camcon. Can someone post the link please?
#75
Originally Posted by isis
Originally Posted by engifineer
Careful you arent running it too lean... that can be a bad thing.
Thrawn,
you're right! A friend of mine installed this unit into his Toyota Altis and he only gained 2HP... Btw, have you ever seen or heard of Vios before? just curios as Vios is only sold in South East Asia.
#76
Originally Posted by isis
Originally Posted by engifineer
Careful you arent running it too lean... that can be a bad thing.
Thrawn,
you're right! A friend of mine installed this unit into his Toyota Altis and he only gained 2HP... Btw, have you ever seen or heard of Vios before? just curios as Vios is only sold in South East Asia.
I have heard of the Vios before, but it's not sold here in America as the Vios, if I'm not mistaken, it's the Corolla,or something very close to it.
EDIT
Correction, I was mistaken. The Vios doesn't appear to be the same as the Corolla. It seems to share a platform with the Echo,Yaris, and Vitz.
#77
^^ True.
But you want to make sure you arent too rich at the same time. An excessively rich mixture creates more carbon monoxide, and to an extreme can also cause more fuel blowby and poor lubrication of the cylinder walls. This is on the extreme side though.
For an NA engine I would keep it between 14.1 and 14.7 to achieve the closest to the stoichiometric ratio.
But you want to make sure you arent too rich at the same time. An excessively rich mixture creates more carbon monoxide, and to an extreme can also cause more fuel blowby and poor lubrication of the cylinder walls. This is on the extreme side though.
For an NA engine I would keep it between 14.1 and 14.7 to achieve the closest to the stoichiometric ratio.
#78
Originally Posted by engifineer
^^ True.
But you want to make sure you arent too rich at the same time. An excessively rich mixture creates more carbon monoxide, and to an extreme can also cause more fuel blowby and poor lubrication of the cylinder walls. This is on the extreme side though.
But you want to make sure you arent too rich at the same time. An excessively rich mixture creates more carbon monoxide, and to an extreme can also cause more fuel blowby and poor lubrication of the cylinder walls. This is on the extreme side though.
For an NA engine I would keep it between 14.1 and 14.7 to achieve the closest to the stoichiometric ratio.
#80
Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by Thrawn
Originally Posted by engifineer
^^ Thats why I mentioned waiting until you had added some other significant power mods first. Even if you could do it in a few hours, which isnt allowing much cool down and tuning time you would have around $350 in tuning. so $700 - $800 for 10 HP. For $500 + gaskets, head bolts (I am pretty sure toyota uses stretch bolts which must be replaced each time) and self install I could have a ZPI head and around 15 - 20 HP gain according to the last info I heard from them.
I still think it is a cool product, but I would rather wait to tune it with a turbo installed to justify the tuning costs.
I still think it is a cool product, but I would rather wait to tune it with a turbo installed to justify the tuning costs.
I agree, definitely a mod to do after you've done what you plan to do to the engine. Unless you have free access to a dyno, lol. As for using it with a turbo, it doesn't seem robust enough to me. Seems like an Emanage would be better suited for F/I.
And if you know of anyone giving away time on a dyno in the twin cities, i wouil love to know their name
As for installing it w/ a plug-n-play adapter, I don't know of any. The directions call for tapping 3 wires and splitting 2.